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They Met Over Whiskey. They Talked Spycraft. Is That Why Skripal Was Poisoned?

They Met Over Whiskey. They Talked Spycraft. Is That Why Skripal Was Poisoned?
May 14, 2018
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Army officers removing the bench where Sergei V. Skripal and his daughter were found in Salisbury, England, in March.Will Oliver/EPA, via Shutterstock
PRAGUE — The aging Russian spy had been a free man for only a few years when he turned up in Prague for a secret meeting with his former adversaries. He looked ill, but acted jovial, drinking with his Czech hosts and joking that his doctor had prescribed whiskey for high blood pressure.:ohhh:

Then he got down to business, rattling off information about Russian spycraft and the activities of former colleagues that might give the Czechs an edge over their foes.:ohhh:


This was Sergei V. Skripal, the former Russian double agent who along with his daughter was nearly poisoned to death with a rare and toxic nerve agent10 weeks ago, touching off a furious confrontation between Russia and the West that has played out like a Cold War thriller and led to the expulsion of more than 150 Russian diplomats from more than two dozen countries.

The British authorities have accused Russia of trying to assassinate Mr. Skripal — a charge the Russians angrily deny — to send a broader message that the Kremlin would never forget or forgive any traitor. To buttress their case, the British authorities have portrayed Mr. Skripal as a symbolic victim who was living quietly in semiretirement in Salisbury, England, after being swapped in a high-profile spy exchange in 2010.

But in the years before the poisoning, Mr. Skripal, a veteran of Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U., apparently traveled widely, offering briefings on Russia to foreign intelligence operatives, according to European officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity. The meetings were almost certainly approved and possibly facilitated by the British authorities as a way to both educate their allies and provide Mr. Skripal with income.

He met with Czech intelligence officials on several occasions and visited Estonia in 2016 to meet with local spies. Such visits were neither illegal nor unusual for defectors. But they meant that Mr. Skripal was meeting with intelligence officers working to thwart Russian operations in Europe, opening the possibility that his poisoning was a narrower act of retribution.


There is no way to know for certain whether Mr. Skripal’s travels made him a target, or even if the Russian government knew about them. The trips were kept secret, known only to a select few intelligence agents. Not a single official from the spy services in the Czech Republic or Estonia would discuss the details publicly.

Asked whether Mr. Skripal had met in recent years with intelligence agents in Spain, where he had once worked as a double agent, a spokesman for the country’s foreign intelligence service, CNI, said the question “is a red line we cannot cross.”


Mr. Skripal arrived in Prague in 2012 shortly after his wife, Lyudmila, succumbed to uterine cancer. He was grieving, but nevertheless in good spirits when he met with officers from at least one of the Czech Republic’s three intelligence services, according to a Czech official with knowledge of the meetings. Some details of the visit were first reported over the weekend by the Czech weekly Respekt, and were confirmed independently by The New York Times

During the brief visit, Mr. Skripal drank, he joked, and he provided Czech intelligence with information about G.R.U. officers operating in Europe. His information was dated; he retired from the G.R.U. in 1999. Even so, the Czech officers found his knowledge to be valuable. Many of the G.R.U. agents he worked with in the 1990s were still active, the official said. Though Mr. Skripal’s health was poor, the official said, his mind was clear.

Mr. Skripal was so helpful that Czech intelligence officers continued to meet with him, the official said, making several trips to Britain
in subsequent years, though the exact dates are unclear.

Officials were more circumspect about Mr. Skripal’s visit to Estonia, with one describing it as “very sensitive information.” A senior European official with knowledge of the trip confirmed that the former Russian agent met secretly with a select group of intelligence officers in June 2016, though it is not clear what they discussed. The British intelligence services helped facilitate the meeting, the official said.

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Mr. Skripal during a hearing in a Moscow court in 2006.Press Office of Moscow District Military Court, via Getty Images
A spokesman for the British Home Office also declined to comment.

Mr. Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found semiconscious on a park bench in the British town of Salisbury on March 4. Officials later determined that they had been poisoned with novichok, a deadly nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union. The British government has accused Russia of manufacturing and stockpiling the agent, as well as training “special units” to employ it against Russia’s enemies.

Russia has aggressively denied any involvement and has lampooned the British investigation. But Mr. Skripal would certainly still have enemies in Russia, not least of all President Vladimir V. Putin, who has said he is incapable of forgiving betrayal. In 2006, a Russian military court convictedMr. Skripal of selling out fellow Russian spies in exchange for payments from British agents. He was serving a 13-year sentence when he was unexpectedly sent to Britain in the 2010 spy swap.

Russia’s relations with Estonia and the Czech Republic, two former Communist Bloc countries, are freighted with the legacy of the Cold War. Estonia in particular moved aggressively to assert its independence after breaking with the Soviet Union in 1991, often provoking Russian ire. Ferreting out Russian spies is a source of national pride.

“Estonia has the best counterintelligence in Europe,” said Toomas Hendrik Ilves, who was Estonia’s president for a decade and left office in 2016. “We’ve caught as many spies as Germany.”

Nothing about Mr. Skripal’s travels appears all that uncommon. John Sipher, who retired from the Central Intelligence Agency in 2014 and once ran covert operations against the Russians, said the United States routinely deployed Russian defectors to lecture the intelligence services of its allies, though their meetings with other agencies would be kept secret to avoid angering Moscow.

“There is a bit of a game where, O.K., the guy spied for us, we got what we wanted, and now that we’re out, we’re not going to rub your nose in it,” he said.

Sharing knowledge and experience is often the only way a former spy can make a living, experts said. Mr. Ilves, the former Estonian president, called it the “spook version of a lecture tour.”

For former double agents, retirement can be dull and anticlimactic. The British government provides a stipend, but in the past defectors have protested that it is too small. In the late 1990s, a former spy named Victor Makarov filed a complaint against the British intelligence services over his miserable living conditions and eventually ended up camping outside Prime Minister Tony Blair’s residence in protest.

Others have resorted to creative and illegal means to augment their pensions. Oleg Gordievsky, a senior K.G.B. officer whose defection in 1985 was a serious blow to the Soviet government, hosted a game show for a time. Mikhail Butkov, another K.G.B. defector, was imprisoned for three years for creating a fake business school and defrauding would-be students out of 1.5 million pounds.

“It’s psychological — they’ve been in the limelight, and they’re not important anymore,” said Stephen Dorril, the author of numerous books about Britain’s intelligence services.

Mr. Skripal appeared to be enjoying a comfortable, though modest, retirement. In Salisbury, the cozy cathedral town where he lived, the former Russian intelligence officer belonged to the Railway Social Club, drove a dark red BMW and owned a tidy red-brick home on Christie Miller Road.

Still, it was clear that he remained under Russian scrutiny. In 2013, the G.R.U. hacked into his daughter’s email accounts, according to the British government. And in 2014, his case was profiled in a Russian documentary series about the lives of Russian traitors called “The Price of Military Secrets” that was financed by the Moscow government.

The Kremlin would probably not consider sharing outdated information with foreign intelligence services to be much of a threat, said Mr. Sipher, the retired C.I.A. officer. But it would be a different matter if Mr. Skripal was being used for other purposes, like recruiting new Russian agents.

“If he was pitching other Russians, that would put him higher on the list,” Mr. Sipher said. “Or if he got too close to something that was really sensitive to the Russians.”

Michael Schwirtz reported from Prague, and Ellen Barry from London and Salisbury, England. Hana de Goeij, Holger Roonemaa and Jose Bautista contributed reporting.

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VbBeachBreak: He is a Rahm Emmanuel protege. I hope he has security these guys he’s going after will play dirty if they’re cornered.

Hippomom: Avenatti isn’t working alone. And he isn’t stupid.

Clib: Yep. Even his introduction into all this clusterfukk doesn't look random. Stormy just didn't pick this guy by chance. If i remember correctly Bush senior advised his son W: Whatever you do,do not piss off intelligence agencies. We will see how all this will play out for our russian puppets.

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Political_moof: Engage tinfoil:
Someone who has an axe to grind with Trump, and also had extensive oppo research on Trump. Someone who knew about Stormy and his penchant for these sleazeball NDAs, cohens role as bribery go-between, and also someone who knew that Avenatti was basically just being lead down into a rabbit hole of corruption.
I think it's crazy to believe Avenatti just happened to take a case from Stormy and then just kind of "aww geez shucks"'d into a veritable web of bribery, corruption, and collusion. He's also inexplicably getting access to Cohen's bank info detailing suspicious transactions.
TL;DR Avenatti being perfectly positioned to put the squeeze on Trump's bribery consigliere wasn't a coincidence. Someone who knows A LOT about Trump is basically teeing Avenatti's drive up.
 

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Whole shyt is way deeper than any of us can imagine.

The"leaks" are deliberate. Those in the know are months, even years ahead of us.

I've said this a bunch of times in this thread but, we are witnessing history right now. Our grandkids will learn and write papers about this.

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