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Manafort's time to understand this. They were out here doing entirely way too much.
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Manafort's time to understand this. They were out here doing entirely way too much.
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Gates deep in this but Manafort is deep as the abyss or even pass that. He literally met the devil.
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Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
@ thinking you'd be able to trace anything back to Putin. Russians just infiltrated our national election and are still doing it...they could easily get some low level lackey to take Manafort out or even poison him for $10KManafort would be safer in jail than to confess all of what he knows. Remember this investigation isn't just about the 2016 election, they're investigating years of bank fraud, international conspiracy, tax evasion...do you know how many people Manafort could implicate? He'll probably feel safer in a jail cell
More than 100 charges. 19 people. 3 companies: The Mueller Inquiry, Explained.
100 charges. 19 people. 3 companies: The Mueller Inquiry, Explained.
By Emily Cochrane and Alicia Parlapiano
Feb. 23, 2018
In the nine months since Robert S. Mueller III was appointed to oversee the investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, he has issued more than 100 criminal counts against 19 people and three companies. Of the 19 people, four — including three Trump associates — have pleaded guilty. Thirteen are Russians accused of meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
Here is an assessment of the charges and the people facing them in the special counsel investigation.
Pleaded Guilty and Known to Be Cooperating
George Papadopoulos
Mr. Papadopoulos, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 to lying to the F.B.I. about a conversation with a professor during which he was told that Moscow had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton and “thousands of emails,” according to court records.
Mr. Papadopoulos initially told investigators that he met with the professor, who has known ties to the Kremlin, before he joined the Trump campaign. In fact, the meeting happened days after he became a campaign adviser, and he repeatedly tried to arrange meetings between Russian government officials and the Trump campaign.
He has been cooperating with the Mueller investigation since his arrest last July at Dulles Airport outside Washington. Mr. Papadopoulos was the first person to plead guilty in the inquiry.
Michael T. Flynn
Mr. Flynn, President Trump’s first national security adviser, pleaded guilty in early December to lying to the F.B.I. about conversations he had in 2016 with the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time, Sergey I. Kislyak. Prosecutors said that in separate conversations, Mr. Flynn discussed an upcoming United Nations Security Council vote over whether Israel should be condemned for building settlements and over sanctions that President Barack Obama had issued against Russia.
Although his sentencing is delayed, court documents indicate Mr. Flynn will face zero to six months of prison time.
The first senior White House official to agree to a deal with prosecutors, Mr. Flynn has been cooperating with Mr. Mueller’s investigation. He said in a statement that the decision to cooperate and the guilty plea “reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country.”
Richard Pinedo
Richard Pinedo, a Southern California computer science major, pleaded guilty in February to identity fraud after he created and sold fake bank accounts from 2014 through the end of 2017. While his indictment supported the charges Mr. Mueller brought against 13 Russian nationals for election meddling, a spokesman for the special counsel said prosecutors had “no evidence and there is no allegation he was a witting participant in the Russian efforts to interfere in U.S. elections and political processes.”
Mr. Pinedo has been cooperating with the Mueller investigation.
Alex van der Zwaan
The son-in-law of a Russian billionaire and a lawyer who worked with the former Trump campaign aides Rick Gates and Paul Manafort, Mr. van der Zwaan pleaded guilty on Tuesday to lying to prosecutors about a conversation he had with Mr. Gates in September 2016. Mr. van der Zwaan, a 33-year-old Dutch citizen and former lawyer in London for a powerful New York-based law firm — Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom — faces up to five years in prison.
It is unclear to what extent Mr. van der Zwaan is cooperating, but his plea agreement does not compel him to do so.
Rick Gates
Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman for Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, pleaded guilty on Friday to a pair of charges, conspiracy against the United States and lying to investigators. The plea deal came as Mr. Mueller was levying dozens of new charges of bank fraud and money laundering against Mr. Gates and Mr. Manafort, the campaign’s former chairman and a longtime associate of Mr. Gates.
The men were first indicted in October, and both pleaded not guilty. For nearly four months, Mr. Gates stood by that decision but said on Friday that “the reality of how long this legal process will likely take, the cost, and the circuslike atmosphere of an anticipated trial” had prompted a change of heart.
Mr. Gates also said he would cooperate with the special counsel’s investigation.
Pleaded Not Guilty
Paul Manafort
Mr. Manafort faces dozens of counts of money laundering and bank fraud charges related to his work as a lobbyist and political consultant for Viktor F. Yanukovych, the Russia-aligned former president of Ukraine who was ousted in 2014.
Since first being charged in October, Mr. Manafort has maintained his innocence and has sued the Justice Department, claiming that Mr. Mueller has overstepped his authority as special counsel by bringing charges unrelated to Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
“Notwithstanding that Rick Gates pleaded today, I continue to maintain my innocence,” Mr. Manafort said in a statement on Friday. “I had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue the battle to prove our innocence. For reasons yet to surface he chose to do otherwise. This does not alter my commitment to defend myself against the untrue piled up charges contained in the indictments against me.”
Others Charged
Thirteen Russians: Yevgeny Prigozhin, Mikhail Bystrov, Mikhail Burchik, Aleksandra Krylova, Anna Bogacheva, Sergey Polozov, Maria Bovda, Robert Bovda, Dzheykhun Ogly, Vadim Podkopaev, Gleb Vasilchenko, Irina Kaverzina and Vladimir Venkov.
Three companies: Internet Research Agency, Concord Management, Concord Catering
In a sprawling 37-page indictment, Mr. Mueller charged the 13 Russians with conspiracy to defraud the United States, and connected them with a four-year effort to undermine and influence the 2016 presidential election. The Russians — and the three companies that facilitated and funded their work — are accused of using social media, the identities of American citizens and politically charged topics to manipulate an already divisive campaign.
Three of the Russians were also indicted with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud and five were also charged with aggravated identity theft.
None of the defendants were arrested, as Russia rarely extradites its citizens to the United States to face legal proceedings. But the indictments are designed to openly name and shame the Russians in order to make it difficult for them to continue to work or travel abroad. They also risk capture and extradition if they travel outside Russia.
Alicia Parlapiano is a graphics editor and reporter covering politics and policy from Washington. She joined the Times in 2011 and previously worked at The Washington Post and the Pew Research Center.
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A version of this article appears in print on February 24, 2018, on Page A16 of the New York edition with the headline: Adding Up The Charges From Mueller. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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No, we need standardsMan talk about whatever you want in this thread as long as its related to the topic and tell this cocksucker to kick rocks.
There are people who contribute information without trying to dictate what can and can't be discussed because they don't suffer from delusions of grandeur. Man the thread was so much better a few days ago..
Dont come in here with doubts at this point.
If you doubt, you should be banned. Period. This isn't speculation time. Theres a thread for skeptics, and you all keep leaking out of there.
Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Lee Atwater
Manafort would be safer in jail than to confess all of what he knows. Remember this investigation isn't just about the 2016 election, they're investigating years of bank fraud, international conspiracy, tax evasion...do you know how many people Manafort could implicate? He'll probably feel safer in a jail cell
They don’t have to trace it the fact that he would flip and bring the whole house of cards down in Russian oligarchs is enough.. Everyone will be looking at Putin and RIS if Manny gets touched
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Redemption is Coming
Feds have like a 90% conviction rate
So he might beat 3 charges but still have to eat 29
And you know there's more coming
That's how they roll. I knew somebody who was doing dirt and doing well. Feds came through and wanted him to give up some generic customer. Apparently, the guy was a fugitive. He said no. Feds then charged him with just selling weed, then he said he can easily beat the charge. Feds then added his coke dealing, he called bullshyt. One night, a guy told him he would shoot him in the streets, so being a street, he carried his heat. Got caught with it and the gun had 5 bodies on it. Now, Feds told him "look, you need us now. We need you to give up the guy and wear a wire to help us take down some gangs. EIther that or 25 to life". He still refused. Then, sitting home and going to the park with his kids, he realized he would never see his kids again and would lose everything on top of that. He had to take the easy choice and risk his life to become an informant. Dude was a OG and played ball with us but he told us that story to tell us don't fukk with anything Feds can get you for and take the first deal if you're part of a conspiracy. Other people will.
His case sounds like Manafort. Mueller will go after his kids next, after asset forfeiture. The longer he waits, the more aggressive they will become.
He has. Alledgedly, he had the power to put hits on people. WHen you have that power in a criminal enterprise, you basically a made man. There's no turning back. You must have caught bodies your own self. If you can fukk with Derispaka and not worry about getting hacked, then you hold weight.
Manafort was a textbook mafia boss.
Manafort would be safer in jail than to confess all of what he knows. Remember this investigation isn't just about the 2016 election, they're investigating years of bank fraud, international conspiracy, tax evasion...do you know how many people Manafort could implicate? He'll probably feel safer in a jail cell
It's still about COllusion and RUssian interference. What Mueller has achieved so far is making those boys look like textbook criminals in the public eye. Once he's done with Manafort or flips him, then he can move on Trump and others that took part in this easier. Trump is already trying to rehab Kushner as a good man, working for free. That's because Kushner attorneys see what Mueller is doing. Once he moves on the dirt Kushner has been doing, you will see why he's ramping up charges and painting those boys as criminals early. Once he paints Kushner as a criminal, you will see where the 13 RUssians, Manafort, Kushner, FLynn, Repubs, Trump are all the same.
This is why Manafort won't flip. Hes LITERALLY got dirt on everyone
LITERAL PRIME MINISTERS WERE ON HIS PAYROLL
Alfred Gusenbauer, Austria's former chancellor, and Romano Prodi, Italy's former prime minister.
Boys...we are in a NEW PHASE.
The depth of this is astonishing.
Manafort just got two fukking prime ministers wrapped up
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UPDATE ON THE AUSTRIAN PRIME MINISTER MANAFORT PAID OFF TO LOBBY!
ALL THIS COFFEE
ALL THESE THINGS THEY FORGET
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UPDATE ON THE AUSTRIAN PRIME MINISTER MANAFORT PAID OFF TO LOBBY!
ALL THIS COFFEE
ALL THESE THINGS THEY FORGET
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Change is inevitable...
Manafort knows that if he snitches he's a dead man
He's in waaaaaaaaaay too deep. This is why Mueller got this shyt setup like a RICO.
Manafort knows that even if he goes to jail he can get got in there.
And if he only goes on for a little bit, he's dead when he gets out.
His family too.
EVERYTHING Trump touches dies.
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My favorite thing to do is to update the thread title
White House Told Kushner’s Security Clearance Will Be Delayed
Feb. 23, 2018
Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and a senior White House adviser, has resisted losing access to highly classified information.Tom Brenner/The New York Times
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department informed the White House this month that there were substantial issues related to Jared Kushner that still needed to be investigated and would significantly delay a recommendation on whether he should receive a permanent security clearance, according to two people briefed on the matter.
The White House was not told what the issues were involving Mr. Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser. But the notification led White House lawyers and aides to believe that they were more problematic than the complexity of his finances and his initial failure to disclose contacts with foreign leaders — the reasons Mr. Kushner’s lawyers have said are holding up the process, the two people said.
An interim clearance has given him access to closely guarded information, including the presidential daily brief, the intelligence summary Mr. Trump receives every day. The issue took on added urgency after the chief of staff, John F. Kelly, issued a sweeping review of interim clearances in response to the disclosure that the White House staff secretary, Rob Porter, had his permanent security clearance delayed for a year because of spousal abuse allegations.
In a memo to the White House staff, Mr. Kelly said that he would cut off high-level access to many of the aides who had been unable to get a permanent clearance.
A White House spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment, and a lawyer for Mr. Kushner, Abbe D. Lowell, declined to comment.
The new details about Mr. Kushner’s security clearance, first reported by The Washington Post, emerged hours after Mr. Trump said on Friday that he would leave it up to Mr. Kelly to decide whether Mr. Kushner could continue to hold his interim clearance.
Mr. Trump’s statement set up a potential confrontation between his son-in-law and his chief of staff, who have clashed privately in recent months. In addition to the new policy he announced, which appeared meant to restrict Mr. Kushner’s ability to receive high-level national security information. Mr. Kelly has also tried to restrict Mr. Kushner’s access to the president.
“I will let General Kelly make that decision, and he’s going to do what’s right for the country,” Mr. Trump said at a news conference with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of Australia. “I have no doubt he will make the right decision.”
Pointing to Mr. Kelly, a retired Marine, Mr. Trump said: “General Kelly respects Jared a lot. I will let the general, who’s right here, make that call.” The president praised Mr. Kushner, calling him “truly outstanding” and “an extraordinary dealmaker.”
He noted that Mr. Kushner had been working to broker peace in the Middle East. “The hardest deal to make of any kind is between the Israelis and the Palestinians,” he said. “We’re actually making great headway.”
Mr. Kelly, who has tried to inject discipline and order into Mr. Trump’s freewheeling West Wing, has bristled from the start at Mr. Kushner’s amorphous and omnipresent role, and Mr. Kushner has been angered in turn at what he regards as challenges to his authority and access.
The strains have deepened in recent days, as Mr. Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, have privately disparaged the chief of staff to Mr. Trump, faulting his handling of the scandal surrounding Mr. Porter, the staff secretary who resigned under pressure after spousal abuse allegations became public.
Mr. Kelly’s memo further inflamed the situation, essentially suggesting that Mr. Kushner might lose the high-level clearance — including to view the presidential daily brief, a summary of intelligence and other sensitive information — that he has enjoyed for more than a year.
At his news conference, Mr. Trump blamed the federal government for the delay on the security clearance, saying there was a “broken system,” and that it took too long for White House employees to have their backgrounds screened by investigators. He complained that it had taken “months and months and months” for some of his staff members to be given their security clearances, despite the fact that some of them do not have complicated financial backgrounds — a factor that sometimes delays background investigations.
While the federal security clearance system has long been criticized as broken and has a backlog of hundreds of thousands of pending applications, senior White House officials almost always have their applications expedited so they can be cleared within weeks and perform their duties.
It is highly unusual for multiple senior officials to spend months serving with only interim clearances, a problem that Mr. Kelly privately began talking about fixing in September.
Mr. Kushner met with Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators briefly last year to discuss his dealings with the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn. The interview led Mr. Kushner’s lawyers to believe that he was considered a witness, not a target, in the special counsel investigation.
Michael S. Schmidt and Michael D. Shear reported from Washington, and Maggie Haberman from New York. Julie Hirschfeld Davis contributed reporting from Washington.
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A version of this article appears in print on February 24, 2018, on Page A16of the New York edition with the headline: White House Is Told Kushner’s Clearance Will Be Delayed. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe