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My younger sister was a Stein supporter :snoop:

Change the prison system! Overhaul the Justice Department! And addressing systemic racism and police brutality, the thing was, she had NO fukkING CHANCE, regardless that she is a fraud, before that was known.

I don't think she ended up voting for her though. I tried to explain why it was a waste of a vote, in August 2016, if only we had really known. She lives in Oakland, which explains the Stein thing.
Whenever this is brought up, its worth noting that Jill Stein also ran in 2012. This did not result in an Obama loss as we all know.
Jill Stein presidential campaign, 2012 - Wikipedia

Jill Stein wasn't the reason Hillary lost...but I dont want to derail...

For some reason the Clinton product wasn't as good as the Obama product for some people.
 
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Whenever this is brought up, its worth noting that Jill Stein also ran in 2012. This did not result in an Obama loss as we all know.
Jill Stein presidential campaign, 2012 - Wikipedia

Jill Stein wasn't the reason Hillary lost...but I dont want to derail...

For some reason the Clinton product wasn't as good as the Obama product for some people.
Not for some reason...Hillary just wasn't as good as Obama. Really, who in the past 40-50 year was?

Still, the Russian deza campaign to stop her from being elected as been shown to be pretty damn effective and well planned.
 

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Foreign agents meddling in elections is illegal, this is the culmination of that. This is going to in my view eventually connect Trumps campaign and team to Russian meddling but it’s not going to be enough to actually sink Cheeto even if it’s proven.

My nikka get the fukk out of here with this low key trolling.. Mueller already got Cheeto on obstruction of justice and money laundering that’s a given he don’t need to prove collusion
 

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Whenever this is brought up, its worth noting that Jill Stein also ran in 2012. This did not result in an Obama loss as we all know.
Jill Stein presidential campaign, 2012 - Wikipedia

Jill Stein wasn't the reason Hillary lost...but I dont want to derail...

For some reason the Clinton product wasn't as good as the Obama product for some people.
Stein covered the vote spread in like 2-3 states.

 
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Stein covered the vote spread in like 2-3 states.
Sounds like a problem with the alternative. More people decided to either vote for Stein or Trump over Hillary. Hillary lacked appeal and enthusiasm to compete in the states that ended up mattering (MI, Wi, and PA). States Obama won.

This is not to dismiss voter suppression efforts in states like Wisconsin.

But we've had this conversation before, and there is this constant effort to ignore the horrible campaign strategy and campaign of the Clinton camp.

Plugging this article once again that outlines the awfulness of the Clinton campaign
How Clinton lost Michigan — and blew the election

But to be fair, part of it is not her fault. She also had 30 years of slander against her and the hard truth is that maybe Hillary, despite everything, probably couldn't have overcome the mud thrown on her name for three decades and it probably would have been better in that case for someone else to be the Democratic front runner.
 
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