RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT
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Berlin Station stay with the shyts...if you know...you know
Hollywood couldn't tell it better.
I think the sip of cranberry meant something. More like "lemme get the hell outta here"
James Risen writes a story for The Intercept claiming that the CIA somehow doesn't want to fukk with anything Trump out of fear of Pompeo. His former paper sends a "rebuttal" stating there's no proof of that exactly. Now everyone is playing sides like it matters 
I think the most important thing is in this Slate interview from the Times writer of this new piece.
I think the most important thing is in this Slate interview from the Times writer of this new piece.
"Collusion-curious," which means to me that, Mueller, who knows more than any news source is putting some shyt together on top of the obvious obstruction case. But things aren't set in stone so instead of pitting journalist against each other how about we let this thing play out with the facts on the ground less we end up with egg on our faces from the 24 hour circle jerk this whole thing has become
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
imagine being invited to the bootleg piss tape viewing party
Again...can we talk about how gully the CIA is?
nikkas forget how quiet these boys are. The FSB just doesn't give a fukk and does their shyt out in the open...most times you can never tell who is CIA and you NEVER read about them
nikkas forget how quiet these boys are. The FSB just doesn't give a fukk and does their shyt out in the open...most times you can never tell who is CIA and you NEVER read about them
It seems quite difficult to get a smoking gun to prove 'collusion' because all trump had to do was signal to the russians that he was interested. He did that publicly when he ask them to release the hacked emails. Any intelligent person knows sanctions relief was the payment and he has done that with no consequences.
Hopefully Mueller can roll some of the insiders to snitch on trump. Obstruction of justice case is however a slam dunk IMHO.
Hopefully Mueller can roll some of the insiders to snitch on trump. Obstruction of justice case is however a slam dunk IMHO.
OH
MY
GODDDDDDDDD
THE US EXTRADICTED THE HACKER!!!!!
THE STORY JUST REPORTED THAT THE CIA-HACKER MEETING HAPPENED IN SPAIN!
THE USA JUST EXTRADICTED THIS HACKER FROM SPAIN!!!!
Russian accused of hacking extradited to U.S. from Spain
THE USA HAS THE fukkING HACKER!!!!!!!!
RUSSIAN MEDIA IS PUSHING A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN THAT THE HACKER IS BEING MISTREATED IN PRISON
Is Russian hacker Peter Levashov being mistreated in Connecticut prison?
CONNECT THE DOTS...THIS IS THE fukkING GUY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!
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MY
GODDDDDDDDD
THE US EXTRADICTED THE HACKER!!!!!
THE STORY JUST REPORTED THAT THE CIA-HACKER MEETING HAPPENED IN SPAIN!
THE USA JUST EXTRADICTED THIS HACKER FROM SPAIN!!!!
Russian accused of hacking extradited to U.S. from Spain
THE USA HAS THE fukkING HACKER!!!!!!!!
RUSSIAN MEDIA IS PUSHING A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN THAT THE HACKER IS BEING MISTREATED IN PRISON
Is Russian hacker Peter Levashov being mistreated in Connecticut prison?
CONNECT THE DOTS...THIS IS THE fukkING GUY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!
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I just hope all the Mr and Mrs Smiths are doing everything they can to work against Pompieo (sp?). I know that the CIA is mostly into world building/destruction, and they were always a dept that went into business for themselves, I just fukking hate that Trump, that undeserving, orange mr. bean, might have, even if very little, say so over these juggernauts the country hasAgain...can we talk about how gully the CIA is?
nikkas forget how quiet these boys are. The FSB just doesn't give a fukk and does their shyt out in the open...most times you can never tell who is CIA and you NEVER read about them
I think the sip of cranberry meant something. More like "lemme get the hell outta here"
Lol, I have seen what Russian prisons do, imagine us mistreating (and no, I’m not burying the lede, I read the story, I just find that part extra funny).OH
MY
GODDDDDDDDD
THE US EXTRADICTED THE HACKER!!!!!
THE STORY JUST REPORTED THAT THE MEETING HAPPENED IN SPAIN!
THE USA JUST EXTRADICTED THIS HACKER FROM SPAIN!!!!
Russian accused of hacking extradited to U.S. from Spain
THE USA HAS THE fukkING HACKER!!!!!!!!
RUSSIAN MEDIA IS PUSHING A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN THAT THE HACKER IS BEING MISTREATED IN PRISON
Is Russian hacker Peter Levashov being mistreated in Connecticut prison?
CONNECT THE DOTS...THIS IS THE fukkING GUY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!
@DonKnock @dza @88m3 @wire28 @smitty22 @fact @Hood Critic @ExodusNirvana @Blessed Is the Man @dtownreppin214 @JKFrazier @tmonster @BigMoneyGrip @Soymuscle Mike @.r. @Dorian Breh @Dameon Farrow @TheNig @VR Tripper @re'up @Blackfyre_Berserker @Cali_livin
Yall need to read this yet again:
Spies Suspect Kremlin Is Pushing Dozens of Fake Trump Sex Tapes
Schindler KNEW months ago that russia was pushing fake propaganda tapes.
I'm telling yal...this dude is fukking legit
AND he alleged that theres evidence of Trump with underaged girls
Spies Suspect Kremlin Is Pushing Dozens of Fake Trump Sex Tapes
Schindler KNEW months ago that russia was pushing fake propaganda tapes.
I'm telling yal...this dude is fukking legit
AND he alleged that theres evidence of Trump with underaged girls
Spies Suspect Kremlin Is Pushing Dozens of Fake Trump Sex Tapes
Spies Suspect Kremlin Is Pushing Dozens of Fake Trump Sex Tapes
By John R. Schindler • 11/09/17 11:17am
Opinion
President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin on July 7, 2017. MIKHAIL KLIMENTIEV/AFP/Getty Images
Attempting to get to the bottom of a complex espionage case, untangling multiple strands of secret agentry, is the most challenging exercise in all intelligence work. It taxes the minds of the most gifted counterspies, particularly when the operation extends over years, even decades, and it involves a complex cast of players, some of them Russian.
A half-century ago, when our Intelligence Community was assessing if there were Kremlin moles inside our spy agencies (spoiler: there were), a nasty bureaucratic fight ensued that dragged on for years. The protagonist was James Angleton, the CIA’s top counterspy for two decades, who coined the term “wilderness of mirrors” to describe the impenetrable mystery of certain espionage operations. In typical Angletonian flourish, he borrowed the phrase from a T. S. Eliot poem to capture the enduring mystery of never quite grasping up from down in a case, or knowing who’s really running the show—and looking at it too closely only leads to more confusion.
I’ve previously written about Angleton’s “wilderness of mirrors,” since it remains a fascinating saga still, and I noted how tricky the counterspy game can be:
One of the alluring aspects of counterintelligence is that very complex cases can turn on very small, sometimes minute, pieces of information. And years of getting to the bottom of an operation can be swiftly overturned when one tiny—and possibly very inconvenient—fact comes to light. This is particularly a possibility when what exactly happened in a case proves hard to pin down. As most cases involving the Russians are.
This is relevant today, since between Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team and the efforts of our Intelligence Community, the secret side of Washington, D.C., is currently engaged in the biggest counterintelligence investigation since the days of VENONA in the early Cold War, when the FBI and NSA unraveled a vast Kremlin spy apparatus in our country, centered in our nation’s capital.
Seventy years later, it’s the same story, except this time the targets include not just senior White House officials—VENONA revealed that Soviet moles had burrowed deep and high into FDR’s four administrations—but the man in the Oval Office himself. Just exactly what President Donald Trump’s relationship to Moscow is constitutes the cornerstone of the inquiry, and that’s a vexing and complex question, because it requires close examination of Trump’s activities at least going back to 1987, when he took a trip to the Soviet Union.
No part of the investigation has gotten more rubber-necking than any kompromatthat the Russians may possess on our president. I’m talking, of course, about the alleged “pee-pee tape” that caught the public’s attention when it was posited by the former British spy Christopher Steele in his now-infamous dossier on Donald Trump, which has become a lightning rod for all sorts of speculation, not necessarily informed.
As I’ve written about the Steele dossier, although a great deal of its raw intelligence has turned out to be true, large portions reek of disinformation— including the most salacious bits. As I explained:
The dossier’s “pee-pee tape” claim is viewed with derision by most Western spies who know the Russians. It’s very likely that the Kremlin possesses kompromat on the president—senior intelligence sources from several countries have confirmed to me that unpleasant videos of Trump exist—yet there’s no reason to believe Steele’s particular claim here, without corroborating evidence.
So, Steele’s porn-worthy allegation appears to be untrue, but the idea that our president has acted out in sexually controversial (and perhaps illegal) ways—and that somebody has filmed it—is taken very seriously by intelligence experts. Ever since Trump announced his candidacy for the White House in June 2015, espionage gossip everywhere has bandied about what might exist to corroborate decades of rumors about Trump’s antics.
It’s plausible that such kompromat exists, given our president’s lifestyle. Forty years ago, when he was partying at Manhattan’s Studio 54 at its cocaine-fueled heyday alongside celebrities and hangers-on (including the just-indicted Paul Manafort and the swinging Roger Stone), it was a wild scene of which Trump boasted: “I would watch supermodels getting screwed, well-known supermodels getting screwed, on a bench in the middle of the room. There were seven of them and each one was getting screwed by a different guy.”
Then there are the allegations that the president’s penchant for pretty girls does not always pay attention to the age of consent. One woman who’s claimed that Trump raped her when she was just 13 years old has repeatedly filed suit against the president, only to drop the case each time, most recently last year. That’s connected to the mysterious case of Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire hedge-funder and convicted sex offender, whose “friends list” reads like a who’s-who of the male half of America’s rich and powerful.
President Trump is on that list, and rumors have swirled for years about his participation in Epstein’s underage sex escapades. There appear to be connections between Epstein’s debased antics and Trump’s Mar-A-Lago resort, now termed “the winter White House.” Hard facts remain elusive, however, and perhaps the media’s lack of ardor for getting to the bottom of this sordid case may have something to do with the fact that Epstein’s pals are a powerful bunch—and Bill Clinton is mixed up in this too.
To sum up, the idea that President Trump has been caught on tape doing something sordid is inherently in the realm of the possible. But has he been? Here’s where things get tricky, fast. I’ve investigated this issue for the past couple years. I’ve talked to dozens of well-placed sources (many of them longtime spy-friends), and I can share with you some basic conclusions.
As many as a dozen intelligence services worldwide, on four continents, are in possession of some sort of “Trump tape” featuring sexual escapades of a controversial nature; in some cases, the women involved appear to be underage. Some of these tapes have been shared with the Mueller investigation.
One Western intelligence agency with a solid professional reputation is in possession of an unpleasant Trump tape that they assess “with high confidence” is bona fide, i.e. exactly what it appears to be. They obtained the tape from a trusted source who plausibly had access to it. Over the decades, Trump has traveled widely—including to Russia more than once—and thereby exposed himself to surreptitious filming in numerous countries.
However, here’s the rub: Many of the “Trump tapes” floating around in spy circles worldwide cannot be verified, while some of them are obvious fakes. The Western spy agency that’s holding a Trump tape they’re pretty sure is real has also been approached two other times with tapes that were less solid—and one of them was transparently fake.
It’s obvious to savvy Western counterspies that someone is spreading fake Trump tapes—not all of them high quality—to muddy the waters. The obvious suspect, of course, is the Kremlin. Since the Russians know all about President Trump’s decades of personal antics, including what kompromat exists on him, they appear to be pushing dubious and unverifiable tapes, some of them obviously fake, to create chaos and confusion.
It’s working, and in the current climate, it seems doubtful that any Trump tape can be verified sufficiently to have a mainstream journalistic outfit report its details. After all, with multiple fakes out there, any bona fide tape would require not just rock-solid technical authentication, but also firming up the exact place and date of the incident, plus confirmation from the girl(s) caught on camera too. That seems like an insurmountably high bar to clear at present.
This, then, is yet another successful Kremlin spy operation, one more grand provocation to mess with our Western heads. Although Vladimir Putin is deeply disappointed with President Trump, who has failed to get sanctions lifted off Russia, much less make Washington and Moscow close partners in anything, keeping an increasingly damaged and ineffectual president in the White House, who’s incapable of accomplishing much except rage-tweeting, suits Moscow’s foreign policy needs just fine.
A half-century ago, the Kremlin dispatched multiple dangles and even a fake KGB defector to Washington to confuse American counterspies and, above all, to protect their real moles in our nation’s capital. It worked like a charm. The resulting confusion birthed Angleton’s vaunted “wilderness of mirrors,” and eventually it drove that brilliant and seasoned counterspy over the edge, never to return.
Now, in a more technologically advanced age, the Russians are playing a nearly identical operational game with fake tapes, websites, trolls and bots. The Kremlin appears to have pulled it off again, and it will take years, probably decades, to get to the bottom of the Trump tapes saga—if anybody ever does. Welcome to the Wilderness of Mirrors, Trump Edition.
John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.
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John Kelly and Hope Hicks Face Scrutiny as Trump Questions Response to Abuse Allegations
Staff secretary Rob Porter resigned this week after published reports of domestic abuse
Peter Nicholas
Updated Feb. 9, 2018 8:24 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump privately questioned his team’s response to domestic-abuse allegations against a key lieutenant who resigned this week, placing much of the blame on two senior aides who had been deemed untouchable inside a White House marked by frequent turnover.
Mr. Trump’s private criticisms about John Kelly, his chief of staff, and Hope Hicks, the White House communications director, contributed to turmoil inside the West Wing on Friday, multiple White House officials said.
Mr. Trump’s scrutiny of Ms. Hicks surprised people inside the White House because he has rarely questioned his longtime aide. Ms. Hicks has been in a relationship with Rob Porter, the staff secretary forced out this past weekfollowing published reports that he abused his two ex-wives.
Mr. Porter said many of the published allegations about him were false.
The president reserved his most biting remarks, a person close to the situation said, for Mr. Kelly, whose about-face on the accusations against Mr. Porter capped a tumultuous week for the chief of staff.
Mr. Kelly initially defended Mr. Porter, vouching for his integrity publicly and privately urging him to fight the allegations and remain in the job, according to White House officials. But he then reversed himself and accepted Mr. Porter’s resignation after graphic photos emerged Wednesday of the alleged abuse.
By then, Mr. Kelly was in damage control. In an email to White House aides sent at 8:45 p.m. on Thursday, he told staff that the White House takes domestic violence “very seriously” and people shaken by the allegations against Mr. Porter can seek counseling services through the White House.
In a meeting with senior staff Friday, he stressed that he acted quickly when he realized the severity of the accusations. Two White House officials said they were uncomfortable with that account, with one saying Mr. Kelly was trying to “muck up the waters.”
Mr. Kelly hasn’t offered to resign, said Hogan Gidley, a White House spokesman. He said the president has “complete confidence” in Mr. Kelly and Ms. Hicks. The White House didn’t make either official available for comment.
Mr. Trump, commenting publicly for the first time on the matter Friday, emphasized Mr. Porter’s denials of abuse, but didn’t address his staff’s handling of the matter. He said of Mr. Porter: “As you probably know, he says he is innocent.” Mr. Trump said Mr. Porter did “very well” in the White House and “we wish him well.”
Jennifer Willoughby, Mr. Porter’s second wife, said of the White House reaction to the allegations: “It’s troubling to me, and I think reflective of a greater problem in American society…the disbelief or disregarding of women.”
The president’s private frustration with officials’ handling of Mr. Porter’s departure has put senior aides on the defensive, and contributed to an atmosphere where aides privately accused each other of trying to use the crisis to advance their own agendas.
In the West Wing press office, communications officer Mercedes Schlapp told some staffers to come to her with questions because Ms. Hicks was “dealing with a lot” and “not able to perform the duties of communications director right now,” according to three people familiar with the meeting. Two people described Ms. Schlapp’s move as a power play, while a third said Ms. Schlapp was only trying to protect the communications team.
Ms. Schlapp said she didn’t make the comment. “This accusation is completely false,” Ms. Schlapp said. “Hope and I work hand-in-hand on important policy rollouts and on all matter of strategic communications. Hope is such an important member of our team and I’m proud to serve with her in advancing the president’s agenda.”
Broadly, Mr. Trump recently has started to signal some frustration with Mr. Kelly, according to friends and advisers. Mr. Trump has already found workarounds to some of Mr. Kelly’s attempts to limit access to the president, such as relying on first lady Melania Trump to field calls from friends who don’t want to wait for the chief’s protocols.
Mr. Trump’s friends said the president has started to ask them about Mr. Kelly’s performance. One person said the president has sought opinions on potential replacements, such as Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney.
These people cautioned that Mr. Trump didn’t appear ready to part ways with Mr. Kelly. But after six months on the job, some aides inside the White House have started to question how much longer Mr. Kelly will remain.
“I would say that [Mr. Kelly] is doing quite well, given that we have the most unconventional president in our lifetimes,” said Bill Daley, a former chief of staff under Barack Obama. “Going back to the first nine months, it was ‘The Gong Show’ over there. At least that’s gone away.”
The former four-star general—brought on as chief of staff in July from his post as Homeland Security secretary to bring more order to the West Wing—was already having a difficult week before the abuse allegations against Mr. Porter emerged. Mr. Kelly was criticized this week for disparaging undocumented immigrants who hadn’t signed up to be shielded from deportation under a program created by former President Barack Obama. Mr. Kelly said those who hadn’t signed up were either too afraid or “too lazy to get off their asses.”
A rare unforced error last month drew the president’s ire when Mr. Kelly described his boss’s campaign promises on immigration as not “fully informed.” There also appeared to be distance between Mr. Kelly and the president earlier this week when the staff chief said he was doubtful the White House would extend a March 5 deadline protecting young immigrants from deportation, despite the president saying several times that we was open to precisely that possibility.
Mr. Porter’s resignation marks a blow to Mr. Kelly. As the chief of staff seized control of the West Wing, Mr. Porter played an increasingly important role, and Mr. Kelly relied on him. Mr. Porter predated his boss’s arrival in the White House—he was an acquaintance of Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, when both attended college, and he was hired at the start of the administration by former staff chief Reince Priebus—but he became an increasingly influential figure in recent months.
A former Senate staffer whose father, Roger Porter, was an adviser to former President George H.W. Bush, Rob Porter was one of the few senior West Wing officials with experience in Washington. Mr. Porter decided which memos reached the president and which staffers’ viewpoints were pertinent. He also ensured there was a response inside the White House to the president’s directives or questions.
When accusations from both of Mr. Porter’s ex-wives were first published this week, Mr. Kelly offered a full-throated defense of the staff secretary. He called Mr. Porter a friend and confidant, and “a man of true integrity and honor.”
Mr. Kelly then issued a second statement Wednesday night saying he was “shocked” by the new allegations. He said he had accepted Mr. Porter’s resignation.
White House deputy press secretary Raj Shah said Thursday that Mr. Kelly wasn’t made fully aware of the allegations until Wednesday, when photos of Colbie Holderness, Mr. Porter’s first wife, were published showing a black eye she says was the result of a fight with Mr. Porter.
Asked Thursday why Mr. Kelly and other White House officials initially issued statements supporting Mr. Porter, Mr. Shah said: “I think it’s fair to say that we all could have done better over the last few hours, or last few days, in dealing with this situation.”
A second White House official, David Sorensen, resigned Friday amid domestic abuse allegations, the White House said. The departure of Mr. Sorensen, a speech writer, was first reported by the Washington Post.
“Before we were contacted by the media, we learned last night that there were allegations,” Mr. Shah said Friday. “We immediately confronted the staffer, he denied the allegations and he resigned today.”
—Rebecca Ballhaus contributed to this article.
Write to Michael C. Bender at Mike.Bender@wsj.com and Peter Nicholas at peter.nicholas@wsj.com