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What the Democrat Party needs are voters who have at least a somewhat decent attention span so unelectable third party folks can't come in and easily muddy the waters.

We need folks who will consistently go to the polls.

We need folks who realize the politician doesn't need to be anywhere near perfect to get the vote. This is a toughy with us for some reason. We need a damn massiah. We gotta be 'fired up'. Is life a pep rally now?

In other words, we need a lot less flaky base. Gop voters for all their faults have this down pat.

It isn't about all this other bs people are in here coming with.

Now Hear This! They wouldn't need to have broad appeal if people carried their asses to the polls en masse! I'm willing to bet the people in here talking shyt about them having mass appeal didn't even vote or 'protest voted'. They're a part of the problem. People who jump up with so called 'solutions' and push them relentlessly like they're really deep usually are.

What happened in Alabama can happen nationwide! Be a base! Support! Gop does not have to beg their base to do this like we have to on the left.
 

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If the chatter from today is to believed, dude is Carter Soze :russ:
 

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He was already suspect but the fact that I have yet to see any confirmed current or ex career IC members corroborate any his reporting makes him look even stranger.

I never payed much attention to people riding how his career was ended, I chalk that up to Twitter. But where is the respect of his peers? Why do they all distance themselves from him?
He's always on TV as an analyst. and he wasn't on the level of clapper or Brennan.

AND he's NSA, you've never seen an NSA exec. They're literally more ghost than CIA or FBI. Their jobs aren't seen as sexy. Schindler ran one of the biggest technical operation bases in the fukking agency.
 

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:ALERTRED::ALERTRED::ALERTRED:

Oh great. MILITARY PARADES :laff:



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Trump’s ‘marching orders’ to the Pentagon: Plan a grand military parade

Trump’s ‘marching orders’ to the Pentagon: Plan a grand military parade
President Trump’s vision of soldiers marching and tanks rolling down the boulevards of Washington is moving closer to reality in the Pentagon and White House, where officials say they have begun to plan a grand military parade later this year showcasing the might of America’s armed forces.

Trump has long mused publicly and privately about wanting such a parade, but a Jan. 18 meeting between Trump and top generals in the Pentagon’s tank — a room reserved for top secret discussions — marked a tipping point, according to two officials briefed on the planning.

Surrounded by the military’s highest ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Joe Dunford, Trump’s seemingly abstract desire for a parade was suddenly heard as a presidential directive, the officials said.

“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”

American shows of military strength don’t come cheap. The cost of shipping Abrams tanks and high-tech hardware to Washington could run in the millions, and military officials said it was unclear how they would pay for it.

A White House official familiar with the planning described the discussions as “brainstorming” and said nothing is settled. “Right now there’s really no meat on the bones,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.

Still, the official said Trump is determined to have a parade. “The president wants to do something that highlights the service and sacrifice of the military and have a unifying moment for the country,” the official said.

Trump revels in French military pomp far from White House turmoil]

It was still on his mind two months later when he met with Macron on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

“It was one of the greatest parades I’ve ever seen,” Trump told reporters. “It was two hours on the button, and it was military might, and I think a tremendous thing for France and for the spirit of France.”

Seated next to Macron, Trump added: “We’re going to have to try to top it.” :confusedjagfan:

Several administration officials said the parade planning began in recent weeks and involves White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, but cautioned that it is in the preliminary stages. D.C. officials said they have not been notified of parade plans.

A date has not been selected, although officials said Trump would like to tie the parade to a patriotic holiday. Officials are weighing weather patterns as well as competing events, such as the massive annual Independence Day celebration on the Mall.

Trump officials had discussed Memorial Day on May 28, and July 4, but the Pentagon prefers Veterans Day on Nov. 11 — in part because it would coincide with 100th anniversary of the victorious end of World War I and therefore be less associated with the president and politics. “That’s what everyone is hoping,” said the military official.

It is unclear what role Trump would play, whether he may perhaps serve as a grandmaster or observe the spectacle from a reviewing stand.

The location is still being discussed, though Trump has said that he would like it to proceed along Pennsylvania Avenue, which links the Capitol and the White House. It would be the same route as Trump’s inaugural parade and pass by his family’s show piece: the Trump International Hotel.:hovlaugh:

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President Trump and his wife, Melania Trump, attended the traditional Bastille Day military parade in Paris last July. (Chesnot/Getty Images)

Even before he was sworn in as president, Trump was dreaming of America’s war machine on display for the country and the world in front of the White House or Capitol.

“We’re going to show the people as we build up our military,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post before his inauguration. “ . . . That military may come marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. That military may be flying over New York City and Washington, D.C., for parades. I mean, we’re going to be showing our military.”

[Trump loves a military parade — it’s one reason he’s heading to Paris]

But big military parades — even those launched with the best of intentions — carry some risks and troublesome historical echoes.

With a few exceptions — such as former president George H.W. Bush’s 1991 parade down Constitution Avenue celebrating victory in the Persian Gulf War — presidents have avoided displays of military hardware that are more associated in the American mind with the Soviet Union’s Red Square celebrations or, more recently, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s efforts to show off his Taepodong missiles.

“I don’t think there’s a lack of love and respect for our armed forces in the United States,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University. “What are they going to do, stand there while Donald Trump waves at them? It smacks of something you see in a totalitarian country — unless there’s a genuine, earnest reason to be doing it.”:confusedtucker:

The White House official rejected the suggestion that some associate a military parade with strongmen, saying it would be a “celebration of the men and women who give us freedom.”

“That’s the opposite of a totalitarian government,” the official said.

Military leaders consolidate power in Trump administration]

A parade would likely be interpreted as another stroke of nuclear gamesmanship. Tensions between North Korea and the United States have risen over the past year as Trump and Kim have taunted each other with playground nicknames and threats.

After Kim warned last month that he had a “nuclear button” on his desk, Trump replied: “Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

The White House official said a parade would have nothing to do with Trump’s feuds with Kim, but would be designed as a broad show of strength to send a warning to all of America’s adversaries.

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“Who flipped the coin for the Super Bowl on Sunday?” asked Peter Feaver, a former Bush White House official and professor at Duke University. “It was Medal of Honor winners. Why? The military brings us together.”

But Feaver also issued a warning for Trump, who is known for his excesses.

“A military parade,” he said, “is the kind of thing that can easily be overdone.”





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@The Black Panther @Hood Critic peep this. Schindler dropped straight FACTS in this piece and tons of information that I literally didn't know about. THAT is his value. Dude will have you researching things in history you thought you knew, and lead you on a fact finding mission with a new intent in mind. He also drops tons of hints about actual classified things. Notice, he's calling out actual journalists who trafficked disinformation on Moscow's dime. Thats huge. No one else comes with this sort of insight and expertise:



Social Media Is Helping Putin Kill Our Democracy
By John R. Schindler • 02/06/18 1:20pm
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Russian President Vladimir Putin. Sean Gallup/Getty Images

There are few more important issues confronting the West today than what to do about social media companies, which thanks to their ubiquity possess vast riches and daunting influence over our democracies. Indeed, their opinion-shaping power is so great that even the powerful are reluctant to state plainly that this issue requires frank public discussion.

It was therefore a welcome breath of fresh air recently when Robert Hannigan, a former British spy boss, sat down for an interview with the BBCand spoke his mind. Hannigan, who headed GCHQ (Britain’s NSA) from late 2014 to early 2017, had a top-secret front-row seat to recent events, and his comments were rendered more scathing by their measured delivery.

Social media companies are “massively rich” and “have huge power,” Hannigan observed, adding that they possess “global reach and global power, not just of money but of data that individual governments don’t have.” Hannigan knows all too well that, contrary to much mythology, unless you’re a spy or terrorist, Facebook knows vastly more about you than GCHQ or NSA do.

Moreover, social media companies, which are infected with a toxic admixture of trendy-left politics and rapacious capitalism, display an “arrogance that they somehow sit above democracy,” according to Hannigan, who tied this to a resurgent and dangerous Russia. Hannigan explained that Russia loomed as the single biggest security threat during his tenure as GCHQ director. Over the last few years, as Vladimir Putin has invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea, Russia “has become more aggressive, and they’re doing in cyberspace what they do in the real world.”

Hannigan hit on a fundamental reality of our age: As the Kremlin’s mechanized brigades have attacked Russia’s neighbors, its cyber-brigades have pillaged Western companies, governments and societies thanks to a big assist from social media. No Western country has been more directly impacted by this new form of Russian information warfare than the United States, which saw the events of 2016 transform our already nasty politics into something beyond mere partisanship.

There’s no denying Russia’s culpability here. As our Intelligence Community assessed, Moscow sabotaged our 2016 election with cyberespionage and online Active Measures to hurt Hillary Clinton, boost Donald Trump, and generally foment political turmoil in Russia’s “Main Adversary.” This 21stcentury espionage operation relied heavily on social media, especially Kremlin-linked trolls and bots, to hurt the Democrats by spreading disinformation—in other words, “fake news”—with lightning speed.

Although the IC assessment that was released to the public last July was unclassified and therefore lacking much detail on Russian techniques, some of those were exposed last summer when the improbably named Reality Winner, an NSA contractor, leaked a Top Secret assessment by the agency that demonstrated direct Russian intelligence involvement in clandestine efforts to sway our presidential election. Although the Kremlin has officially denied it interfered in American politics in 2016, some of these denials have been with a smirk. Putin and his inner circle of Chekist honey badgers know we know and don’t care.

Then there’s the trickier matter of Donald Trump, the beneficiary of all that Russian espionage and propaganda. The president’s “love” for WikiLeaks—the Moscow spy front that did so much damage to Democrats in 2016—is a matter of public record, while incidents like his leaking of highly classified Israeli intelligence to Russia’s ambassador during an Oval Office visit not long after the inauguration raise uncomfortable questions about Trump’s actual relationship with the Kremlin.

To say nothing of odd events such as the high-level Team Trump meeting on June 9, 2016 with a Kremlin attorney who has been unmasked as a Russian intelligence officer—right in Trump Tower in Manhattan. The Trump campaign’s secret connections to Moscow were numerous and complex, and current Republican efforts to portray them as benign—like suggesting Trump staffers are innocent victims of FBI harassment—are laughable and worthy of derision. All we can say for certain at present is that the president and his retinue have gone to great lengths to mask and obscure whatever their relationship with the Kremlin actually is.

However, it must be kept in mind that social media made this all possible. The Russians have been spreading lies for decades. Moscow’s Cold War disinformation campaigns against the West were every bit as vicious and unpleasant as today. Active Measures, including fake reports, forged documents, and dastardly conspiracies invented out of thin air, were created by the KGB to smear Western governments—especially our intelligence agencies—and none more than America’s. In the 1980s, Washington got adept at pushing back against these Kremlin lies, as two administrations have signally failed to do since 2014, when Putin’s attack on Ukraine unleashed a simultaneous cyber-assault on Western institutions.

Social media made Moscow’s clandestine work much easier and more profitable. Although the lies currently emanating from the Kremlin resemble Cold War Active Measures in overall form and content, they are now disseminated so quickly, and through so many fronts, trolls, and bots, that Western governments are severely challenged to even keep up with these weaponized lies, much less push back. For this, we have the Internet to thank. While none can deny the countless benefits of the online age, this is one of its most pernicious side effects.

Let’s illustrate a concrete example. In the mid-1990s, Russia’s intelligence services commenced an Active Measure against NSA, designed to harm the agency’s public image and damage its highly valuable secret alliances with other Western spy services. This fell under the catch-all term ECHELON, which was an actual agency Cold War signals intelligence program, but which in Moscow’s telling became a stand-in for all Western SIGINT activities.

The first salvo came in 1996, when a New Zealand activist named Nicky Hager published a book, Secret Power, which exposed his country’s secret role in the NSA-led Five Eyes intelligence alliance. This work was a mix of fact and fiction and the public had no ability to differentiate between the two, causing trouble for the Anglosphere spy partnership. The same year, a book called Radio-Espionage appeared in Moscow, which exposed NSA secrets and painted the agency as a sinister ear listening in on the planet, enabling America’s global misdeeds. In fact, the book was written by Russian intelligence and, between them, these two publications launched the ECHELON campaign, giving anti-NSA activists worldwide their talking points to smear Western intelligence.

According to this Active Measure, NSA spent most of its time spying on America’s friends, conducting nefarious covert activities to harm freedom and prosperity. That none of this was true was irrelevant, and gradually the ECHELON myth began to spread. Journalists began looking into NSA and its global partnerships; that some of these “investigative journalists” were longtime activists with secret Kremlin ties was not known by the public. In the late 1990s, momentum slowly began to build, especially in Europe, against NSA and its leading role in Western intelligence, and it became a political problem.

Slowly was the key word. The Internet was still in its infancy, online journalism had just been born, and social media was still a distant dream. Nevertheless, the ECHELON Active Measure began to get traction, and the European Parliament commenced an investigation of alleged NSA activities. This culminated in a report released in the summer of 2001 that criticized NSA operations but was short on details. However, two months later, to the day, the Twin Towers fell, and suddenly the West had much bigger security problems to worry about than Western SIGINT.

Over the next decade, our spy agencies focused on counterterrorism to good effect, preventing more 9/11s, and NSA seemingly no longer had to worry about Russian propaganda. Complacency set in and lingering agency security problems went unfixed, despite repeated warnings from counterintelligence officials. The outcome, we know. A dozen years after the European Parliament report, the NSA contractor Edward Snowden defected to Moscow with over a million purloined documents from his employer.

Armed with this top-secret trove, another Russian Active Measure kicked off. Think of the Snowden Operation as ECHELON + social media. The fake whistleblower became a highly paid global celebrity, pontificating about espionage and morality from his FSB safe house, and Snowden’s revelations put meat on the bones of ECHELON’s allegations—particularly when the stolen documents were misinterpreted by Snowden and his journalist enablers, as they usually were.

Thanks to Facebook and Twitter, the Snowden story went global, doing massive damage to NSA and the Western intelligence alliance it leads. Without those social media powerhouses, the story would have likely petered out like ECHELON eventually did. Snowden wasn’t the first NSA malcontent to defect to Moscow with the aim of smearing the agency. Most ominously, the Snowden Operation forged the Kremlin template—weaponized lies attacking the West and its institutions, pushed nonstop by social media agents, trolls, and bots—that elected Donald Trump.

It’s time the West seriously addressed the problem, and quickly, since this Kremlin spy game isn’t going away. Left unchecked, this is the “new normal” that will gradually erode Western democracy itself. Too few of our opinion-makers have spoken up about this painful reality. A happy exception is Chris Zappone, an Australian journalist who for years has castigated the malignant influence of social media, particularly when it’s linked to authoritarian regimes seeking to undermine the West.

Zappone’s critiques of the insidious “Silicon Valley ideology” and how it aids Russia and China deserve attention across the West, since this threat confronts all our societies. I am skeptical that social media giants can reform themselves. They are too rich plus too vain and contemptuous of opinions other than their own. Their self-righteous pontifications would make Gilded Age robber barons blush. As an ardent champion of free speech, I don’t want the government to step in, but there may be no choice. Robert Hannigan feels similarly. In his BBC interview, he observed that the window for social media to self-police is closing fast. “That’s a shame,” he stated, “it would be much better if the companies reform themselves, but I think they are missing the boat.”

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. Read his full bio here.
 

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I'm not even necessarily saying "far left", just somebody that doesn't spend all their time trying to appeal to the GOP base rather than their own.

You can't be everything to everybody. If you try to appeal to everybody then you end up appealing to nobody, which is a large part of what happened to Hillary (and Romney too for that matter). I don't necessarily think the Dem has to be "far left" I just want a Dem that doesn't ignore their own voters in favor of trying to appeal to Republicans.
You ain’t telling me anything I don’t know.

But then again this is ironic because the far left forgets how treacherous things are for Democrats outside of the coastal big cities
 
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