RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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The FBI baited the fukk outta the Trump administration.

When they warned the campaign in Summer of 2016, that was after the Trump Tower meeting.

The FBI was like "So....if you SEE something...make sure you SAY something...cause if you do that'd help us out" :mjpls:


and they ALL lied about it :wow:




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"we interpreted the FBI's directions to mean that we should report any attempted contact by the Russians in the future...if the FBI knew we had a meeting scheduled with the Russians (which it looks like they did through illegal leaks and unmasking!) they should have warned us prior"

"well actually your campaign continued to have meetings even after our directions, none of which were disclosed by your campaign"

"but you had our emails, so technically you were notified :troll:"
 

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Based on what? Its not like she's hid from why she was there. She's already addressed her attendance at that event


Again, because she was a candidate during an election that Russia tried to tamper with, I think its fair to look into this. But people acting like her attending an event that was filled with media from all different countries including the United States and an event that contained human rights activists in 2015 and with no present evidence showing that her visit was accommodated for by Russia like Flynn's was makes it unfair to act like she assisted in anyway in having Russia tamper with this past election.

I am cynical of anybody that pushes so hard to improve relations with Russia. This piece of shyt actively attacked us, and continues to do everything within thier power to attack us, and we are supposed to make nice. We have real power on the global stage, but you wouldn’t know it, because he has used all of his soft power to “bully” our very very weak president, which delegitimizes our country, by proxy. It’s 2017, Russia is not a global force anymore, thier economy is in shambles, but through Trump, they are sitting optically in a top 3 spot, when in reality, based on the way that Putin and the oligarchs have consolidated all the wealth in the country and distributed amongst themselves, they should not even be taken seriously on the world stage. The whole world knows where Trump gets his marching orders, and it is a huge stain on us. Like I said, she is a useful fukking idiot, intentionally or not, she has done enough damage letting herself get used just because she would do/has done ANYTHING to get that money. The other thing that has pissed me off is the spectacle of Trump tipping off Russia about the terrorist attack. Yes, it is the right thing to do, innocents should never die by the hands of these cowards, and I am not looking to criticize the information sharing. My problem is that Putin has been attacking us for years, and because it is not out in the open violence, it is dismissed as nothing by the general public, but beyond that, it’s pretty obvious that Russia has helped Iran, Russia has helped destabilize the ME (and spare me the “US has too”), and most importantly, there is no question whatsoever that Russia has been complicit in getting NK’s nuclear program to what it is today, which is by far worse than any terrorist attack the world has ever seen.
 

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Based on what? Its not like she's hid from why she was there. She's already addressed her attendance at that event


Again, because she was a candidate during an election that Russia tried to tamper with, I think its fair to look into this. But people acting like her attending an event that was filled with media from all different countries including the United States and an event that contained human rights activists in 2015 and with no present evidence showing that her visit was accommodated for by Russia like Flynn's was makes it unfair to act like she assisted in anyway in having Russia tamper with this past election.



I'd agree with you if she wasn't sitting at the big dog table with Mike Flynn and them.

What did a doctor - even a hot shyt Harvard teacher doctor - and a political loser since 2002 do to warrant a seat at Putin's fancy dinner table? If she was just chillin with the press at some loser nobody press table, sure, okay, nothing there, but I find it too hard to believe that Putin allowed some random American lady who has a smaller daily audience than a common coli poster to take up a prestigious head table seat because she's a human rights activist.
 

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The Deep State


Jim Clapper Just Nuked the Trump Presidency
By John R. Schindler • 12/19/17 10:40am
Opinion

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Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Spy bosses are by nature the most tight-lipped of people. Those who head our intelligence agencies got there in no small part by knowing precisely what to say to whom, when. In recent decades, as the heads of Western intelligence have emerged from the shadows and are expected to make occasional public statements, their utterances are customarily vague, requiring extensive tea-leaf analysis to derive their actual meanings.

Even in retirement, spymasters remain habitually enigmatic, and none has been more so than James Clapper, who is our nation’s most experienced spy boss. He retired as the Director of National Intelligence at the beginning of 2017, after over six years in that job—a record. That capped off a career in our Intelligence Community that lasted more than a half-century and included the directorships of two of our nation’s spy agencies. Nobody knows the IC better than Clapper.


While his career had its ups and downs—you don’t work in any trade for over 50 years without missteps—the former far outweighed the latter. Clapper, a retired Air Force three-star general, is widely respected in national security circles, across partisan lines, as a guy who knows his stuff and focuses on the job. Naturally, he’s exceptionally discreet as well.

That changed yesterday, when Clapper went on CNN to drop an unimaginably large bombshell on President Donald Trump. Since the inauguration in January, Clapper has made a few critical comments regarding the president and his strange ties to Moscow, but these have been largely anodyne. Clapper began showing his hand in September, with a comment that the IC assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election raised questions about why Trump was in the White House: it “cast doubt on the legitimacy of his victory in the election,” he stated.

At the end of October, in an interview with Politico, Clapper added more about Kremlin interference in the 2016 election: “The Russians have succeeded, I believe, beyond their wildest expectations.” Clapper dismissed President Trump’s repeated attacks on the investigation of his Moscow links as “fake news” with a warning that the Russians “have been emboldened and they will continue to do this.”

Clapper went considerably further yesterday in his appearance on CNN’s The Lead, in which he finally let his top secret mask drop to say what he really thinks about our 45th president:

I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset, and that’s what he’s doing with the president … You have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer. That’s what they do. They recruit assets. And I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin has come into play here in his managing of a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president.

When pressed about what exactly he was saying, Clapper explained that he meant his words “figuratively,” but that barely mitigates the shock value of what he said. To be perfectly clear: America’s most experienced spy boss publicly termed our president an asset—that is, a witting agent—of the Kremlin who is being controlled by Vladimir Putin. Even if meant only “figuratively,” this is the most jaw-dropping statement ever uttered about any American president by any serious commentator.

Besides, there’s not much difference between literally and figuratively when we’re talking about the inhabitant of the Oval Office. If the American president is being controlled or unduly influenced by a country that’s hostile to us, that’s a big deal. This, of course, is precisely what Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation are trying to get to the bottom of—and, not coincidentally, what President Trump and his supporters are trying just as hard to prevent Team Mueller from unraveling.

It needs to be stated that Jim Clapper’s words, while shocking to the public, are utterly uncontroversial in American intelligence circles (or with our spy partners worldwide, for that matter). In our Intelligence Community, it’s widely understood that Donald Trump possesses longstanding ties to the Kremlin which are at best suspect and at worst reflective of an unsettling degree of Russian influence over our commander-in-chief.

Although I’ve been out of the IC for more than a decade, even then it was known in counterintelligence circles that some of Trump’s Kremlin connections were questionable. Although Trump is too psychologically unstable to be a bona fide spy for anybody, that he possessed strange linkages to Moscow was hardly a big secret.

In particular, Trump’s flashy 1987 trip to the Soviet Union – an obvious KGB operation to anyone versed in Chekist matters – led to his becoming an apparent agent of influence for Moscow. That is, a conduit for political favors and information, often in exchange for commercial deals of the sort Trump has always prized. Knowing this, the history of the Trump Organization over the last few decades takes on a different coloration.

What exactly is Donald Trump’s relationship to Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin? It seems likely that nobody outside Moscow knows the full story, and we should expect it will take years of investigation by Team Mueller and the IC to unravel this murky three-decade saga. The well-honed Chekist habit of planting disinformation to throw Western counterspies off course, which already seems to be at work in the Trump investigation, promises to drag this inquiry out even longer. Don’t plan on pleasant answers either.

Regardless, Jim Clapper has done our country a valuable service by stating the plain truth about our president. On CNN, he was speaking for all our intelligence professionals who must remain silent because of the lifetime secrecy oaths they took to join the Intelligence Community. After months of public White House attacks on the IC, which have now escalated into all-out war on America’s spies by Team Trump, there is finally some open pushback by the spooks.

This isn’t the mythical Deep State, which Trumpists detect lurking behind every tree in Washington. This was Jim Clapper, now a private citizen, speaking his mind as a highly experienced intelligence officer. The impact of his words can be fairly assessed as devastating to anyone who’s paying attention. Nor will Clapper be the last former spook to go public with his thoughts on Donald Trump and the Russians.

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.






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