RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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His existing Russian ties are relevant, however. :ehh:

That just shows Flynn had his fingers in multiple pies.

:dame:

Even if Flynn's interactions with the Russians as part of the campaign/admin were minimal, he's still a big fish in the Russian investigation if he *knew* anything about others trying to contact the Russians.

I believe he does know. :wow:

He has no reason to flip on Russian connects if he can give up the bigger fish here, which would be Erdogans admin who is trying to kidnap people from US soil.

He MAY be charged with Russian stuff but I highly doubt it. Flynn was always going down for doing Erdogans bidding.
 

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His existing Russian ties are relevant, however. :ehh:

That just shows Flynn had his fingers in multiple pies.

:dame:

Even if Flynn's interactions with the Russians as part of the campaign/admin were minimal, he's still a big fish in the Russian investigation if he *knew* anything about others trying to contact the Russians.

I believe he does know. :wow:
Precisely...its like charging Manafort over tax evasion and money laundering :pachaha: :rudy: ...yeah right they got signal intercepts of literal treason on ALL these dudes :demonic:

They'll just stick them with some simple shyt just to prove how things could go a WHOLE OTHER WAY if the government wanted it to :whoo:
 

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Be careful with that line of thinking...the USA is really reluctant to pursue flat out Russian espionage charges. :ufdup:

That shyt he pulled with Sergei Kislyak, Putin, RT, obvious Russian honey pots and the G.R.U. didn't go unnoticed..but unless you can nail his ass to the wall dead to rights over literal espionage, they may just go for the lay up for a 3 star General.

He absolutely could go down IF THEY WANTED HIM TO for Russia.

“If they wanted him to” lol. If they had him for any of it he’d be going down already. He’s the face of scheming in the Trump admin so the feds aren’t giving him any lenience.
 

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He has no reason to flip on Russian connects if he can give up the bigger fish here, which would be Erdogans admin who is trying to kidnap people from US soil.

He MAY be charged with Russian stuff but I highly doubt it. Flynn was always going down for doing Erdogans bidding.

That may be the case. From what I've seen, Flynn is just an all around terrible person. :tchallascust1:
 

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“If they wanted him to” lol. If they had him for any of it he’d be going down already. He’s the face of scheming in the Trump admin so the feds aren’t giving him any lenience.
That may be the case. From what I've seen, Flynn is just an all around terrible person. :tchallascust1:
This is where you're being shortsighted again @Ill

Its not a good look to expose all the dirt the government has in court, especially when it comes to espionage against the Russians. They seem to hate doing that.

In fact, many cases go unprosecuted because the government doesn't want to reveal shyt in court. The UK for example let a lot of spies off the hook when it was just too hard to prosecute under the law without exposing too much information about how they got their information. Look at Melita Norwood - Wikipedia for example. They knew she was a spy for years...never went after her. Theres a reason for this.

Don’t Expect Indictments Soon in Russia Probe: When Counterintelligence and Prosecutorial Interests Meet

Counterintelligence - Why Are Espionage Convictions So Rare? | From China With Love | FRONTLINE | PBS

Read that.

It explains why espionage cases are so hard.

Thats why they just pursue simple shyt like "tax evasion"...thats nothing to them.

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This is where you're being shortsighted again.

Its not a good look to expose all the dirt the government has in court, especially when it comes to espionage against the Russians. They seem to hate doing that.

In fact, many cases go unprosecuted because the government doesn't want to reveal shyt in court. The UK for example let a lot of spies off the hook when it was just too hard to prosecute under the law without exposing too much information about how they got their information. Look at Melita Norwood - Wikipedia for example. They knew she was a spy for years...never went after her. Theres a reason for this.

Don’t Expect Indictments Soon in Russia Probe: When Counterintelligence and Prosecutorial Interests Meet

Read that.

It explains why espionage cases are so hard.

I believe the IC might be willing to sacrifice some sources and methods, due to the size, scope, and importance of this investigation. :tinfoilbrown:

This is too big to let many of these Russians implicated to get away scott free. :damnshakebp:
 

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I believe the IC might be willing to sacrifice some sources and methods, due to the size, scope, and importance of this investigation. :tinfoilbrown:

This is too big to let many of these Russians implicated to get away scott free. :damnshakebp:






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I believe the IC might be willing to sacrifice some sources and methods, due to the size, scope, and importance of this investigation. :tinfoilbrown:

This is too big to let many of these Russians implicated to get away scott free. :damnshakebp:
Exactly...a sitting president possibly committed obstruction, money laundering, conspiring with a hostile Nation treason, and long list of crimes, it doesn't get much bigger than that. Some methods unfortunately are going to have to be exposed.
 

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I believe the IC might be willing to sacrifice some sources and methods, due to the size, scope, and importance of this investigation. :tinfoilbrown:

This is too big to let many of these Russians implicated to get away scott free. :damnshakebp:
Dont sleep...remember the 10 Russians they arrested in 2010?

They had been following them for like a decade :whoo:

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DIPLOMATS IN UZBEKISTAN HAD SIMILAR SYMPTOMS AS THE ONES IN CUBA!!!!







Uzbekistan incident raises suspicions of Russian involvement in Cuba attacks
By Steve Dorsey CBS News November 28, 2017, 12:07 PM
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FILE: U.S. Embassy in Tashkent, Uzbekistan

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A newly revealed incident reported by a USAID officer who is based at the American embassy in Uzbekistan is raising suspicions Russia may have been involved and could have had a hand in bizarre attacks targeting U.S. diplomats in Cuba, according to American sources.

In September, the officer and his wife reported, according to one source familiar with the incident, what may have been at least one acoustic attack similar to those experienced by the diplomats in Havana.


The first Cuba attacks began in November 2016, and the last report of an attack was in August 2017. Victims of the attacks in Cuba describe hearing a loud, high-pitched sound often described like a hiss of cicadas or crickets in unusual places—often in their homes.

The State Department declined to describe in detail the incident in Tashkent.

"We aren't going to discuss ‎every case individually," a spokesperson said.

Victims of the attacks in Cuba were diagnosed with hearing loss, brain injuries, cognitive issues and other conditions.

The source says the two suffered similar effects and were flown out of Tashkent by the State Department to be evaluated. It is unclear what further diagnosis or care they have had following their departure from Uzbekistan.

‎"We take seriously the health concerns of USG personnel anywhere in the world," the State Department spokesperson told CBS News. "We ensure our personnel are examined and receive appropriate treatment."

However, the State Department said no one on the U.S. staff in Tashkent has suffered similar health issues to those experienced by victims of the Cuba attacks.

"We can confirm that no personnel at the U.S. Embassy in Uzbekistan have been diagnosed with the conditions that have been observed in Cuba," the spokesperson said.

USAID, a U.S. government agency that provides foreign assistance in more than 100 countries, maintains its Uzbekistan headquarters office at the American embassy in Tashkent. Its work focuses mainly on agriculture and trade. It referred CBS News inquiries on the incident to the State Department. Although USAID is an independent agency, it works closely with the State Department.

USAID's Country Director in Tashkent Gary Robbins, referred CBS News to an embassy spokesman who offered no more details. Messages to USAID's Deputy Country Director were not returned.

The Central Asian country was once part of the USSR. It declared independence in 1991 during the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, it maintains strong ties with Russia. The two countries held joint military drills in October, their first together in 12 years. Uzbekistan is also considering re-joining the Russian-led military bloc Collective Security Treaty Organization, from which it withdrew in 2012 under long-time President Islom Karimov who died in 2016.

Russia has sought to capitalize on relations with Karimov's successor, President Shavkat Mirziyoyev, at the expense of the U.S.

Now, two U.S. security sources say the September incident in Tashkent raises concerns Russia may be involved, and could have had a hand in the attacks targeting U.S. government personnel in Cuba-another country where Russia has also exerted growing influence.

"The Russians have been rebuilding their relationship—it deteriorated dramatically after the end of the Cold War," according to William Leogrande, a foreign policy professor at American University who focuses on Cuba. Now, "They have a strong presence in Cuba and an historic relationship with Cuban intelligence that might give them the kind of freedom to operate that would provide an opportunity."

Russia has denied any role in the attacks.

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova called suggestions about Russia's involvement "absurd" at a press briefing in Moscow August 31, and said "this does not help the normalization of the bilateral relations" between the U.S. and Russia.

"We are ready to help the Cuban side investigate the matter and determine the facts," she said.

The State Department refused to publicly comment on whether it would welcome Russia's involvement in the investigation into the Cuba attacks.
 
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Exactly...a sitting president possibly committed obstruction, money laundering, conspiring with a hostile Nation treason, and long list of crimes, it doesn't get much bigger than that. Some methods unfortunately are going to have to be exposed.
Zarrab's testimony - in regards to Misha - can add to the pile of obstruction charges for Trump and show a pattern of this administration's fondness for making backroom deals pre and post election with foreign nations.

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