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British publicist Goldstone ready to meet with Mueller
Rob Goldstone ready to come to U.S. and talk to Mueller
by Robert WindremNov 17 2017, 12:11 pm ET
The British publicist who helped set up the fateful meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a group of Russians at Trump Tower in June 2016 is ready to meet with Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller's office, according to several people familiar with the matter.

Rob Goldstone has been living in Bangkok, Thailand, but has been communicating with Mueller's office through his lawyer, said a source close to Goldstone.

Goldstone's New York lawyer, G. Robert Gage, declined to comment other than to say, "nothing is presently scheduled."

However, sources close to Goldstone and familiar with the investigation say they expect he will travel to the United States at some point "in the near future," as one put it.




Rob Goldstone attends a benefit in Water Mill, New York on August 22, 2009. Adriel Reboh / Patrick McMullan via Getty Image file


Goldstone helped set up — and attended — the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower at which Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says she presented information to Donald Trump Jr. and other key Trump aides. The meeting has emerged as a focusof Mueller's investigation into whether the Trump team colluded with the Russian effort to meddle in the 2016 presidential election.

In an email that later became public, Goldstone wrote to Trump Jr. that "the Crown prosecutor of Russia … offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father."

There is no office of crown prosecutor, but Goldstone appeared to be referring to the Russian prosecutor general.

He added that "this is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump — helped along by Aras and Emin," a reference to his long-time clients, oligarch Aras Agalarov and his son, Emin, a Russian pop singer. Much of Goldstone's publicity business involves music promotion. He also represented the Miss Universe pageant, at one time owned by President Trump.

In reply to Goldstone's email, Trump Jr. wrote, "if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer."

Trump Jr. hosted the Russians alongside Paul Manafort, then Trump's campaign chairman, and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and adviser. Along with Veselnitskaya, the Russian delegation included Irakly "Ike" Kaveladze, who works for the Agalarov family in the U.S., and Rinat Akhmetshin, a Russian-American lobbyist engaged in trying to lift Obama administration sanctions on Russia and Russian entities.

Also in the room was Russian-American translator Anatoli Samochornov, who had done work for the State Department and had translated previously for Veselnitskaya.

Investigators are trying to determine whether the promised assistance from the Russian government was provided, and whether it was part of what a dossier compiled by a former British intelligence officer called "a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation" between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Veselnitskaya told NBC News she first received the supposedly incriminating information she brought to Trump Tower — describing alleged tax evasion and donations to Democrats — from Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS owner, who had been hired to conduct research in a New York federal court case.

A source with firsthand knowledge of the matter confirmed that the firm's research had been provided to Veselnitskaya as part of the case, which involved alleging money-laundering by a Russian company called Prevezon.

Veselnitskaya said she turned Simpson's research over to the Russian prosecutor.

A spokesman for Mueller's office declined to comment.



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fact said:
This Franken tweet by the piece of shyt is gaining steam, his long con is wrapped up, he achieved his goal, he is way to comfortable out here, in this current environment, the momentum is slowing down for his supporters. The minute that we are ready to sacrifice Slick Willy, all the momentum will be on our side. Throw this sexual deviant Bill C to the wolves, now!
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Its already backfired.

They're going full press now.

Dumb ass :laff:

 
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I think Trump he's making it hot for for ppl trying to hide their money on purpose. Somebody big up the food chain is cap this fool for exposing all this attention on shady LLCs in foreign banks. The collateral damage he'll do to the elites is huge. All because son wasn't accepted by Manhattan elites :lolbron:
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Worst thing he did was to run for president.

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Why Putin Keeps Outsmarting Trump
The Kremlin leader is trained to lie. Trust me, I ran the CIA: Believing anything he says is folly.
Michael GrunwaldNovember 17, 2017
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When the Art of the Deal meets the KGB, the KGB will always win. That’s the main thing I took away from this past weekend’s strange episode of President Donald Trump seeming to believe that Russian President Vladimir Putin actually believes Russia did not meddle in our 2016 election.

Following his meeting with Putin in Vietnam, Trump initially gave the impression that he accepted Putin’s assurances. The president later sought to clarify that he continued to accept the assessment of U.S. intelligence agencies (“as currently led by fine people”) that Russia had interfered but thinks Putin actually believes Russia did not. Along the way, the president took a swipe at intelligence agency leaders from the Obama era—specifically, James Clapper (director of National Intelligence), John Brennan (CIA director) and James Comey (FBI director)—calling them “political hacks.”

What to make of this bizarre chapter?

First, in all likelihood, the president probably really believes what he first said. Hard as it is to apply logic to Trumpisms, let’s try. If the intelligence community assessment was produced under the leadership of “political hacks” and if the president means it when he calls the Russia investigation a “hoax” (his most frequent characterization of it), then it’s only logical that he doubts the intelligence assessment and finds Putin’s denial congenial.

Prediction: It’s only a matter of time before he returns to his first instinct—that it’s all a “hoax.” That’s the pattern of the Charlottesville controversy. Following his clenched-teeth reading of a telepromted walk-back of his first imprudent remarks, he eventually went on a rant that, rightly or wrongly, raised questions about his earlier condemnation of neo-Nazi groups.

Second, the president is either incredibly naive and uninformed or Putin is a remarkably good KGB-trained case officer — or all of this. Dissembling is part of the intelligence art, but practiced nowhere better than in Russian intelligence and foreign policy. Facts, the evidence even of our eyes, do not get in the way. Recall that Putin with a straight face denied in March 2014 that Russia had forces in Crimea, then part of independent Ukraine — even though we could see on TV that this was false. He then said Russia would not annex Crimea, which it proceeded to do almost immediately. He admitted a month later that, well, Russian forces actually had been there. He may find it irresistible to repeat this pattern with the U.S. election if, at some point in the future, he stands to gain advantage by taking credit.

What the president doesn’t get is that it’s OK to tell the Russians you know they are lying. It actually doesn’t have to get in the way of dealing with them. Just get it out of the way and move on to business. They respect you most when they know that you know what you are talking about. I have personally had to deliver tough messages in Moscow on behalf of the U.S. government when I knew that Russia would deny what we knew to be true. What works best is to just make that clear forcefully — in a “business-like” manner, as the diplo-lingo goes — and move on. You don’t really need an admission; they just need to know that you know. That’s enough. This works.

Third, Trump crossed an important line in personally attacking the intelligence community’s previous leaders. Disagreeing with their views on substantive grounds is fair game — anyone working in the intelligence arena is used to vigorous and contentious debate on that basis. But to my knowledge, no president in the American intelligence community’s 70-year history has ever called its leaders “political hacks.” Playing politics is the ultimate sin in American intelligence, and the ones most likely to call out the offenders are intelligence rank and file themselves. The three attacked by the president are among the most dedicated public servants I’ve known; they inspire broad respect among that rank and file. Intelligence officers are thick-skinned; they will show up every day and do their jobs, but cannot help but find the president’s comments dispiriting.

Fourth, the more the president continues to muddy the issue of Russian meddling, the less likely it is that we will take the steps urgently needed to defend ourselves from further attack on our election system and other aspects of our political life. Lord knows we are not doing enough nitty-gritty cyber defense work—as Attorney General Jeff Sessions acknowledged during this week’s testimony—while most political energy is going into the question of what Americans might have done to help the Russians. Until the president forcefully demands a federal effort to tighten our defenses for the 2018 and 2020 elections, the federal, state, and local efforts will move slowly and without sufficient urgency. That’s just how our system works.

Finally, the sad fact in all of this is that the president is right to think we are going to need to work with the Russians on some issues of mutual interest. Much as we might not want to deal with them on Syria, for example, Putin’s successful defense of the Assad regime has created facts on the ground that, realistically, we cannot avoid in seeking a political settlement. The problem is that so long as the president persists in his current approach to Putin, few will trust him to exercise his vaunted Art of the Deal — which at this point is looking like just a clever book title.

The author was acting director and deputy director of CIA from 2000-2004. He now teaches at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

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The Trump-Russia Prayer:

Our Mueller

Who art in the Beltway.

Harrowing be your name.

Thy justice come,

Thy case be won

In court as it is in public.

Give us this day our daily drip

And forgive us our speculations,

As we forgive those who speculate against us.

For thine is the investigation, and the power, and the duty.

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