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Putin has ALWAYS been out in the open about opposing Clinton at all costs. If you read the history between the two, you'd understand that he wanted payback for her meddling in HIS elections a few years prior. He's spoken on record about this and there are youtube clips of him openly admitting he hates her for her foreign policy in Eastern Europe.
From the WaPo article.... "Hackers with ties to Russian intelligence services". I'll just leave that as is.
Obama asked to assess vulnerabilities in the election system.....but then left them open for Russian hackers? Ok..
Yeah, Russia is gonna run the largest election operation in recorded history and then is gonna back off cuz Obama warned them. Lmao
For such a slam dunk case, theres an awful lot of assumptions and speculation
This should tell you everything you need to know about this story. Obama admin viewed Russia defending Russian-speaking citizens of Crimea against fascists from Western Ukraine as a bigger issue than their 'meddling' in our election....
Other notes:
a) WaPo is the media arm of the CIA. Bezos partners with the CIA and their critical infrastructure is backed by Amazon servers. That doesn't mean this article is wrong, just that its propagandized for certain intelligence purposes. There is no "concrete" evidence. There's assumptions, implications, and attributions. Every significant "fact" in this story is always preceded by words such as "assumed, people tied to the Kremlin (but not the Kremlin), implied, probable, etc". "This HAD to come from senior Russian leadership".
b) American citizens voted in our election. Not Russians. No ones votes have been changed. There was a democratically-elected leader last November. So many people are trying to deflect that fact by blaming Russia but he won the electoral fair and square. HRC had a lay up to Presidency and she squandered it with the WOAT campaign in recent history. The WikiLeaks memos that dropped about her were some of the most damning actual pieces of evidence but we threw that to the bushes because WikiLeaks is suddenly another Russian intelligence unit
c) At the end of the day, all of this is a result of our foreign policy and THATS the biggest issue here. We still have our "democracy". That system isn't going anywhere. Foreign nations have always influenced our elections wether directly or indirectly. Most times its our allies. Some times its war time events where we vote (or re-elected) a 'strong' President to bring us to war against places like Iraq.
If everything is true, it could have EASILY been avoided. HRC State Dept should have stayed out of Russian elections. They should have stayed out of Ukraine. They should stop the NATO encroachment into the former Soviet bloc. They should stop moving missile defense systems closer and closer to the Russian border. They shouldn't have funded a fascist uprising in Ukraine. They shouldn't have overthrown a democratically elected leader in Ukraine. They shouldn't cause and fund rebellions in Georgia. Russia is not some shytty Middle Eastern or Central Asian country. Their capabilities match (or come close to) ours in almost every regard outside of finances. When you poke the bear, what do you expect to happen?
d) I don't believe our democracy was subverted or hurt in any way. The will of the people was heard last November and a lot of people are in denial about that. People should be more focused on why the voters chose to go with Trump's message instead of Hillary's. The issues affecting this country remain the same wether Russia meddled or not.
e) Every week theres a new story that will "literally" get Trump impeached. The next week its debunked. Every world leader throws their opinion in the ring about who should be our next Pres. All of these "damning" stories are all from "anonymous sources". If there was ANY actual evidence of Trump/Putin collusion, it would be at the forefront of conversation and charges would have dropped already. Some are gonna say, "Well let Mueller do his job and give it some time". I'll reply with "Obama supposedly has known about this for two years now and they STILL don't have anything admissible in court.". Its a witch hunt and the media is doing the screw job. The same media owned by six corporations. The same media thats been wrong on all things Trump since the jump. I'll try to stay away from this thread from now on but most of you guys fell for the same bs from the intel community that led us into Iraq.
Pops is like only call if you're dying. Cold world.
. There's no reaching the people who don't see the danger of that. shyt reminded me of Mussolini openly daring the government to remove him after flat out bragging that he had his top opposition whacked between that and promising to go after people who oppose him.
