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I think the most prevalent and relevant charges, if any criminal charges are ever announced, will be financial money laundering conspiracy, and possibly conspiracy for foreign national to influence US election. There was a case in San Diego recently, where a Mexican tyc00n attempted to contribute to a mayoral campaign, and was indicted in a mjaor federal case, convicted on 36 counts at trial. RICO, popularized by rap music, generally would never apply to white collar crimes, none of these guys were actually racketeering, and it would be very difficult to prove. Money laundering, financial crimes would be much, much easier. They will have bank records, sworn statements, text and email messages, cooperating witnesses.

Flynn would be very vulnerable to this, esp, from what I have read.
 

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I read an article a while back about the people that Mueller was accumulating for his team and I was floored. When I thought about it; Trump and his guys are not only possibly facing treason charges, but they might also be facing a RICO charges. When we look at some of the actions of Mike Flynn, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner, Roger Stone, Carter Page and Manafort and then add the actions that Coates, Rodgers and Sessions pulled in front of the Senate Intel Committee and Devin Nunes pulled in attempting to derail a House Intel Committee; then they certainly look like organized criminals. And don't nobody know no Russians. Ever. Never. Ever. Met. One Russian.

Then after getting hit with RICO charges; hopefully Manafort, Trump and Trump's sons will get hit with those IRS tax evasion and money laundering charges. :bryan:

I feel like if these people get hit with a RICO charge some of them are just going to commit that...

They going to lose all their money, all their assets...and go to jail for a LONG time if not for the rest of their lives...
 

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I feel like if these people get hit with a RICO charge some of them are just going to commit that...

They going to lose all their money, all their assets...and go to jail for a LONG time if not for the rest of their lives...
That would be ideal, the icing would be if Alex Jones went to Newton and swallowed a fukking shotgun
 
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Not sure if it has been posted but this is a good read about the people Mueller has working for him...
https://www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-special-counsel-investigation-team/

I didn't know Weissman managed the Enron Task Force :wow:

Mueller might be going for a RICO charge :wow:

I might just legit die right where I am if I wake up one day and read the GOP is getting hit with RICO charges...

I can't believe I live in a world where that is an actual possibility :wow:

Where a major political party is viewed and prosecuted as a organized crime racket :wow:
But they are...
 

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I read an article a while back about the people that Mueller was accumulating for his team and I was floored. When I thought about it; Trump and his guys are not only possibly facing treason charges, but they might also be facing a RICO charges. When we look at some of the actions of Mike Flynn, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner, Roger Stone, Carter Page and Manafort and then add the actions that Coates, Rodgers and Sessions pulled in front of the Senate Intel Committee and Devin Nunes pulled in attempting to derail a House Intel Committee; then they certainly look like organized criminals. And don't nobody know no Russians. Ever. Never. Ever. Met. One Russian.

Then after getting hit with RICO charges; hopefully Manafort, Trump and Trump's sons will get hit with those IRS tax evasion and money laundering charges. :bryan:
I think the most prevalent and relevant charges, if any criminal charges are ever announced, will be financial money laundering conspiracy, and possibly conspiracy for foreign national to influence US election. There was a case in San Diego recently, where a Mexican tyc00n attempted to contribute to a mayoral campaign, and was indicted in a mjaor federal case, convicted on 36 counts at trial. RICO, popularized by rap music, generally would never apply to white collar crimes, none of these guys were actually racketeering, and it would be very difficult to prove. Money laundering, financial crimes would be much, much easier. They will have bank records, sworn statements, text and email messages, cooperating witnesses.

Flynn would be very vulnerable to this, esp, from what I have read.
You remember this? :sas1:

FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations | FinCEN.gov

:sas2:

Peep the date :mjpls:
 
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They are coming for our boy Kush! :mjcry:

Special counsel is investigating Jared Kushner’s business dealings

Sari Horwitz, Matt Zapotosky and Adam Entous June 15 at 7:07 PM

"Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller is investigating the finances and business dealings of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, as part of the probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, according to officials familiar with the matter.

FBI agents and federal prosecutors have also been examining the financial dealings of other Trump associates, including former national security adviser Michael Flynn, former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Carter Page, who was listed as a foreign policy adviser for the campaign.

The Washington Post had earlier reported that investigators were scrutinizing separate meetings that Kushner held with Russians in December — first with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and then with Sergey Gorkov, the head of a state-owned Russian development bank. At the time of that report it was not clear that the FBI was investigating Kushner’s business dealings.

The officials who described the financial focus of the investigation spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly... ."



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Mueller can't bring "case" unless I'm mistaken. A sitting president can't be charged I believe
I think the most prevalent and relevant charges, if any criminal charges are ever announced, will be financial money laundering conspiracy, and possibly conspiracy for foreign national to influence US election. There was a case in San Diego recently, where a Mexican tyc00n attempted to contribute to a mayoral campaign, and was indicted in a mjaor federal case, convicted on 36 counts at trial. RICO, popularized by rap music, generally would never apply to white collar crimes, none of these guys were actually racketeering, and it would be very difficult to prove. Money laundering, financial crimes would be much, much easier. They will have bank records, sworn statements, text and email messages, cooperating witnesses.

Flynn would be very vulnerable to this, esp, from what I have read.
FYI, the Feds have begun rounding up a lot of Russian mobsters around the country in NYC and Miami...ive posted about it in here too.

The knock out is coming.

The USA is gonna purge every Russian agent, spy, and mobster (that they can afford to interrupt for the sake of not ruining a case) they can.

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Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller is investigating the finances and business dealings of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, as part of the probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, according to officials familiar with the matter.

FBI agents and federal prosecutors have also been examining the financial dealings of other Trump associates, including former national security adviser Michael Flynn, former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Carter Page, who was listed as a foreign policy adviser for the campaign.

The Washington Post had earlier reported that investigators were scrutinizing separate meetings that Kushner held with Russians in December — first with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and then with Sergey Gorkov, the head of a state-owned Russian development bank. At the time of that report it was not clear that the FBI was investigating Kushner’s business dealings.

The officials who described the financial focus of the investigation spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

At the December meeting with Kislyak, Kushner suggested establishing a secure communications line between Trump officials and the Kremlin at a Russian diplomatic facility, according to U.S. officials who reviewed intelligence reports describing Kislyak’s account.

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The White House has said the subsequent meeting with the banker was a pre-inauguration diplomatic encounter, unrelated to business matters. The Russian bank, Vnesheconombank, which has been the subject of U.S. sanctions following Russia’s annexation of Crimea, has said the session was held for business reasons because of Kushner’s role as head of his family’s real estate company. The meeting occurred as Kushner’s company had been seeking financing for its troubled $1.8 billion purchase of an office building on Fifth Avenue in New York, and it could raise questions about whether Kushner’s personal financial interests were colliding with his impending role as a public official.

Mueller’s investigation is still in a relatively early phase, and it is unclear if any criminal charges will be brought when it is complete.

“We do not know what this report refers to,” said Jamie Gorelick, a lawyer for Kushner. “It would be standard practice for the Special Counsel to examine financial records to look for anything related to Russia. Mr. Kushner previously volunteered to share with Congress what he knows about Russia-related matters. He will do the same if he is contacted in connection with any other inquiry.”

Kushner has agreed to discuss his Russian contacts with the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting one of several investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Kushner rarely speaks publicly about role in the White House, but he has become a major figure in the administration with a sprawling list of policy responsibilities that includes Canada and Mexico, China, and peace in the Middle East.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller, declined to comment for this story, but said “that the Special Counsel’s Office has undertaken stringent controls to prohibit unauthorized disclosures and will deal severely with any member who engages in this conduct.”

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Mueller, who was appointed as special counsel by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on May 17, is investigating possible coordination between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election, and related matters. The inquiry has expanded to include an examination of whether Trump attempted to obstruct justice, The Post reported Wednesday.

Trump on Thursday tweeted that the investigation was “the single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history - led by some very bad and conflicted people!”

Trump also compared his position to the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server in another tweet.

“Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, ‘bleached’ emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?” he wrote.

After Trump fired FBI Director James B. Comey, Trump said that Comey had told him three times that he was not under investigation. Comey confirmed that in his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week. The first time he told Trump was in his first meeting with the president before the inauguration on Jan. 6.

Before he met with the president, Comey gathered his leadership team at the FBI to discuss with them whether he should be prepared to assure then-President-elect Trump that the FBI was not investigating him personally.

Comey testified that not everyone on his FBI team agreed he should. Comey did not name the dissenter, but The Washington Post has learned it was FBI General Counsel James A. Baker. Comey testified that the member of his leadership team said that although it was true at the moment that Trump was not under investigation, it was possible that could change.

“His concern was, because we’re looking at the potential — again, that’s the subject of the investigation — coordination between the campaign and Russia, because it was President Trump — President-elect Trump’s campaign, this person’s view was, inevitably, his behavior, his conduct will fall within the scope of that work,” Comey said.

“And so he was reluctant to make the statement that I made,” Comey said.


Baker’s views didn’t change, even as Comey told Trump a second and third time that he was not being investigated.

“His view was still that it...could be misleading, because the nature of the investigation was such that it might well touch — obviously, it would touch the campaign, and the person at the head of the campaign would be the candidate. And so that was his view throughout,” Comey said.

Baker declined to comment.

In the days following Trump’s firing of Comey on May 9 and before Mueller’s appointment, the obstruction-of-justice investigation of the president began, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussing the firing of Comey, Trump said in an interview with NBC, “In fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.’”

Comey took notes after each of his nine meetings or phone calls with Trump, including one alone with the president in the Oval Office on Feb. 14, the day after Flynn was forced to resign. Comey testified that Trump said to him, “I hope you can let this go. The president has denied that he told Comey to drop the Flynn investigation.

Comey told lawmakers he gave notes he had taken after that meeting and his other eight meetings or phone calls he had with Trump to Mueller.

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Two senior intelligence officials, Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, and Mike Rogers, the head of the National Security Agency, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller as early as this week.

Trump spoke to Coats and Rogers about the Russia investigation, according to officials. Coats told associates that Trump asked him whether he could intervene with Comey to get the FBI to back off its focus on Flynn, the officials said. Coats later told lawmakers he never felt pressured to intervene.

Trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back against FBI collusion probe after Comey revealed its existence.]

Trump later telephoned Coats and Rogers to separately ask them to issue public statements denying that there was any evidence of coordination between Trump’s campaign and Russian officials. Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the president’s requests, officials said.

Ellen Nakashima contributed to this report.








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All this, even though it's been said time and time again, just goes to show how smart and transparent that Obama truly was. Trump has access to all the information from everything, everywhere, and if he had something he could pin on Obama he would have already put that sh1t out there, as soon as he started getting heat.
 

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I think the most prevalent and relevant charges will be financial money laundering conspiracy, and possibly conspiracy for foreign national to influence US election. There was a case in San Diego recently, where a Mexican tyc00n attempted to contribute to a mayoral campaign, and was indicted in a mjaor federal case, convicted on 36 counts at trial. RICO, popularized by rap music, generally would never apply to white collar crimes, none of these guys were actually racketeering, and it would be very difficult to prove. Money laundering, financial crimes would be much, much easier. They will have bank records, sworn statements, text and email messages, cooperating witnesses.

The thing about the RICO case that would be :jbhmm: to me is that does Mueller HAVE to prove that what happened...happened in a methodically planned out way IF it is the GOP who gets hit with it...because the GOP IS an organization that acts in a methodical planned out manner...

It doesn't have to be racketeering to be a RICO charge...it just needs to be proven that it was organized and methodically thought out and carried out by people who engage in some sort of business or hierarchical system. If the money laundering or financial crimes are done that way then they can lead to RICO charges.

So I guess it all depends on how the investigation is stated. If it is stated as individual people did individual things then I don't see how anyone could get hit with a RICO charge. But if it is stated as "the GOP" then I don't see how it's NOT RICO charges. And then I think that comes down to how many people you get and who they report to...

So like...if you are just going after Donald...then no...no RICO charges...but then if you go after Sessions...who advised Donald in a government capacity...and you go after Pence...who is next in line for president after Donald...or you go after Kushner who is a part of Donald's businesses AND an adviser to Donald...shyt starts to get real...ricoish :russ:...all of these people are advising Trump or answer to Trump in some way or are next in lline for another position of something happens to Trump...that is how an organization behaves...
 
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