raidersreceiver
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dude couldn't diss him when he was alive?
:rudy: at Biggie dissing Pac after he died on LKG
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Mr. Somebody
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Biggie was not a man of integrity.
Pool_Shark
Can’t move with me in this digital space
Yeah I was disgusted with that. Then the whole victory lap to Cali and how he was talking grimey with Sway on the radio. It's funny how on that VH1 behind the music they tried to frame it like BIG wanted no beef.
Wiki entries on these songs
"Long Kiss Goodnight"
It was also speculated by many listeners that the song "Long Kiss Goodnight" contains subtle insults towards 2Pac and Death Row Records C.E.O. Suge Knight although at the time it was denied due to the sensitive nature of both rapper's recent deaths.
However, Lil' Cease, Biggie's cousin and a member of Junior M.A.F.I.A. claimed the following in XXL Magazine's April 2003 issue about Long Kiss Goodnight: "That was about ’Pac. He had some shyt at the beginning of that though, nobody heard it, on the reel. We had to change it. It was a little too much. I can’t remember what Big said about him, but it was terrible. It couldn’t make it. He didn’t want to do it. He had some fire. But he didn’t want to make it too much. He just wanted to address it and to let nikka know, “I know what’s going on, and I could get wreck if I want to.” Like, “If I really wanted to get on ya nikkas, I could.”
Sean Combs, however, denies these claims stating: "Naw, it was just some emcee lyrics. I know people wanna have their imagination, but it was just lyrics. You're hearing it from the horse's mouth. I would tell the truth."
In the first verse, the lyric "Laugh Now, Cry Later" is allegedly a reference to two tattoos on 2Pac’s back (one of which says “Laugh Now” and the other says “Cry Later”). A line in the first verse is supposedly aimed at Shakur:
When my men bust you just move with such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I Ain't Mad at Cha (We Ain't Mad at Cha)
The last 2 verses in particular seem to be directed towards Tupac:
I'm flaming gats, aimin at, these fukkin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that? Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Backwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleeding lovely, with your, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be
Slugs hit your chest tap your spine, flat line
Heard through the grapevine, you got fukked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fukked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no
The lines seem to be making reference to Tupac frequently mentioning Biggie by name in his raps (a practice that was not common at the time), and allegations spread by Wendy Williams that he had been raped during his prison term at Rikers Island. Although some fans have interpreted these lines as references to Shakur's murder, XXL Magazine has stated that the song was most likely recorded before 2Pac's death.
In "Going Back to Cali" the second verse opens up with Biggie's thoughts on the inter-coastal war and his relationship with the West Coast:
If I got to choose a coast I got to choose the East
I live out there, so don't go there
But that don't mean a nikka can't rest in the West
See some nice breasts in the West
Smoke some nice sess in the West, y'all nikkaz is a mess
Thinkin I'm gon stop, givin L.A. props
All I got is beef with those that violate me
I shall annihilate thee
Case Closed.
In the song "Notorious Thugs" B.I.G. refers to long time nemesis 2Pac in the line "so called beef with you-know-who.", calling the feud between him and Shakur 'bullshyt', While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who featured 2Pac on one of their songs the same year) throw jabs towards Three 6 Mafia, Twista, Crucial Conflict and Do or Die.
"My Downfall", "What's Beef" (both of which are about the subject of feuding), and "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" are also said to contain lyrics aimed towards 2Pac (and other rivals), according to speculative listeners. Biggie, however, stated in a Spin Magazine interview that "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" was not about Shakur.
To this day, Bad Boy denies that Biggie ever dissed 2Pac on record in fear of heightening East Coast-West Coast tensions.
Yet, on the track Brooklyn's Finest off of Jay-Z's 1996 album Reasonable Doubt, B.I.G. raps:
The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's
Get it? .. Tu-pac's
The song "Can I Get Witcha", which was featured on Biggie's first posthumous album Born Again, also mentions 2Pac by name, although it was recorded before the feud (the track was originally included on his demo tape).
R.I.P. Big, the greatest rapper of all time.
BTW: Some of these songs were recorder while Pac was still alive and talking shyt. I bet Big went in the studio the day he heard "Hit 'em up" and laid some shyt down.
On "Long Kiss Goodbye", BIG is going at Pac while Puffy is going at Suge. We all know who he's talking about without having to even mention his name. That's what you call a good diss record.
"Long Kiss Goodnight"
It was also speculated by many listeners that the song "Long Kiss Goodnight" contains subtle insults towards 2Pac and Death Row Records C.E.O. Suge Knight although at the time it was denied due to the sensitive nature of both rapper's recent deaths.
However, Lil' Cease, Biggie's cousin and a member of Junior M.A.F.I.A. claimed the following in XXL Magazine's April 2003 issue about Long Kiss Goodnight: "That was about ’Pac. He had some shyt at the beginning of that though, nobody heard it, on the reel. We had to change it. It was a little too much. I can’t remember what Big said about him, but it was terrible. It couldn’t make it. He didn’t want to do it. He had some fire. But he didn’t want to make it too much. He just wanted to address it and to let nikka know, “I know what’s going on, and I could get wreck if I want to.” Like, “If I really wanted to get on ya nikkas, I could.”
Sean Combs, however, denies these claims stating: "Naw, it was just some emcee lyrics. I know people wanna have their imagination, but it was just lyrics. You're hearing it from the horse's mouth. I would tell the truth."
In the first verse, the lyric "Laugh Now, Cry Later" is allegedly a reference to two tattoos on 2Pac’s back (one of which says “Laugh Now” and the other says “Cry Later”). A line in the first verse is supposedly aimed at Shakur:
When my men bust you just move with such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I Ain't Mad at Cha (We Ain't Mad at Cha)
The last 2 verses in particular seem to be directed towards Tupac:
I'm flaming gats, aimin at, these fukkin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that? Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Backwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleeding lovely, with your, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be
Slugs hit your chest tap your spine, flat line
Heard through the grapevine, you got fukked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fukked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no
The lines seem to be making reference to Tupac frequently mentioning Biggie by name in his raps (a practice that was not common at the time), and allegations spread by Wendy Williams that he had been raped during his prison term at Rikers Island. Although some fans have interpreted these lines as references to Shakur's murder, XXL Magazine has stated that the song was most likely recorded before 2Pac's death.
In "Going Back to Cali" the second verse opens up with Biggie's thoughts on the inter-coastal war and his relationship with the West Coast:
If I got to choose a coast I got to choose the East
I live out there, so don't go there
But that don't mean a nikka can't rest in the West
See some nice breasts in the West
Smoke some nice sess in the West, y'all nikkaz is a mess
Thinkin I'm gon stop, givin L.A. props
All I got is beef with those that violate me
I shall annihilate thee
Case Closed.
In the song "Notorious Thugs" B.I.G. refers to long time nemesis 2Pac in the line "so called beef with you-know-who.", calling the feud between him and Shakur 'bullshyt', While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who featured 2Pac on one of their songs the same year) throw jabs towards Three 6 Mafia, Twista, Crucial Conflict and Do or Die.
"My Downfall", "What's Beef" (both of which are about the subject of feuding), and "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" are also said to contain lyrics aimed towards 2Pac (and other rivals), according to speculative listeners. Biggie, however, stated in a Spin Magazine interview that "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" was not about Shakur.
To this day, Bad Boy denies that Biggie ever dissed 2Pac on record in fear of heightening East Coast-West Coast tensions.
Yet, on the track Brooklyn's Finest off of Jay-Z's 1996 album Reasonable Doubt, B.I.G. raps:
The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's
Get it? .. Tu-pac's
The song "Can I Get Witcha", which was featured on Biggie's first posthumous album Born Again, also mentions 2Pac by name, although it was recorded before the feud (the track was originally included on his demo tape).
R.I.P. Big, the greatest rapper of all time.
BTW: Some of these songs were recorder while Pac was still alive and talking shyt. I bet Big went in the studio the day he heard "Hit 'em up" and laid some shyt down.
On "Long Kiss Goodbye", BIG is going at Pac while Puffy is going at Suge. We all know who he's talking about without having to even mention his name. That's what you call a good diss record.
what the fukk was that nikka thinking going to Cali 6 months later.
^ Puffy said it was OK and a time to make peace with the west/promote your album shyt.
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
I'm pretty sure if Pac would have lived until the release date of LAD, Long kiss goodnight would have been on the album but probably with different lyrics.
Long Kiss Goodnight is one of Biggie's most mysterious songs, I heard there's like several different versions of that song, one of them he calls out Pac to a fistfight in the outro.
Long Kiss Goodnight is one of Biggie's most mysterious songs, I heard there's like several different versions of that song, one of them he calls out Pac to a fistfight in the outro.
Avion
The Man in the Mask
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Yeah he was a little reckless with this interview/freestyle
SMH at you Pac stans thinking Big should have remorse over a guy who said he fucccked his wife and would KILL HIS KIDS. "My 44 make sure all yo kids dont grow" Really Pac? Rap beef makes you wanna kill kids that had nothing to do with it? Yeah you all about lifting up black people. FOH
Count Pacula!!
and Puff bytchass was on the first thing smokin out of LA on March 10thi wouldn't have touched down in Cali for atleast 2-3 years. let them crazy nikkas cool down. Vegas tho
Esau = Evil
Banned
#SCUST @ Threadstarter thinking albums, especially in the late 90's could be recorded, samples cleared, pressed, promoted, shipped & released within 2 days or something.
dikkheaded lil kids, man....
The songs were recorded, and it was too late after the entire process....
dikkheaded lil kids, man....
The songs were recorded, and it was too late after the entire process....
Thought we already concluded the car accident he references happened after pac died tho? U can't be callin nas beggin for help against pac while he wuz alive,then soon as he die u decide "ooh ooh I gotta get sumthin off my chest
"...we got no choice but to look at u like a suka