He bought his way in.
Have some disposable income and some ready made celebrity and you got a good chance.
Rosenberg says Drake told him he used ghostwriters
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He bought his way in.
Have some disposable income and some ready made celebrity and you got a good chance.
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That's how you know Nick wrote it:
What happened after two men robbed Drake at gunpoint
On May 31, 2009, Toronto's world-beating hip-hop star Drake was enjoying an evening at a restaurant in Little Italy at the corner of College and Beatrice streets.
He was on the verge of huge artistic and commercial success, loved by fans, admired by critics, seen by corporations as a crossover artist who could make a mint in endorsement deals. But with his burgeoning fame and success came the kind of threat that music superstars sometimes face, a threat that would make him feel unsafe in the city that gave him his start.
Drake left the restaurant that night with a woman named Chantal Brown, according to a synopsis drawn up by police, and they walked down Beatrice Street to his parked SUV. Drake was either sitting in his seat or about to slide in when two men walked up.
They drew handguns and pointed them in Drake's face. They demanded he give up his jewellery and cash. Drake had little choice but to comply.
He handed over his gold and diamond necklace, his several-thousand-dollar Audemars Piguet watch, and $2,000 in American bills.
Ms. Brown was sitting in the passenger seat. A third person, Nicholas Carino, walked out of the restaurant and saw the robbery in progress. He yelled at the gun-toting thieves "to get the fukk back," according to police.
Startled, but with the bling already in hand, the thieves hopped into a waiting getaway car, heading south on Beatrice Street. Shortly after, the getaway car was stopped by police for going the wrong way on a one-way street. Two men dove out, trying to evade arrest.
One, Soccerties Cotterell, was chased down and put in handcuffs.
Another man, Paul Lucian Lelutiu, was allegedly driving the vehicle and was arrested without a struggle.
He was prosecuted along with Mr. Cotterell. They were charged with armed robbery, conspiracy to commit armed robbery, three counts of pointing a firearm and possession of stolen property.
All of this helps make Drake's startling quote in the New York Times this week, that he feels "unsafe at all times" in Toronto*, a little more understandable. Drake will be in town next week for the MuchMusic Video Awards, a gala event, but one where last year, at an after party Drake hosted, three firearms were seized by a heavily armed police squad.
In January, all of the serious charges against Mr. Cotterell and Mr. Lelutiu were withdrawn. They pled guilty only to conspiracy to commit robbery, not armed robbery, and possession of stolen property. Although the police investigation alleged they pointed a weapon at three people with witnesses present, those charges were dropped. The men were sentenced to time served plus one day, and so were out of prison and walking the streets by January of this year. They spent a little over six months in jail.
According to a lawyer involved in the case, Mr. Cotterell was the alleged gunman and Mr. Lelutiu the alleged driver. But the police synopsis names a second gunman, whose identity can't be printed. It's not known what happened to him. An officer and lawyer familiar with the case said their belief is the man escaped arrest.
So what happened? At the time, Drake was being dissed by another Toronto rapper for being a so-called "snitch" for co-operating with a police investigation. Although Drake's roots are in the genteel Forest Hill neighbourhood, he must still contend with a strain of hip-hop culture that, through a twisted "street" logic, vilifies speaking to police.
It raises the question, though, of whether the case collapsed because Drake refused to co-operate. A lawyer close to the process said the withdrawal of the charges was agreed before anyone had to testify, but all indications were that Drake was available to take the stand. He said the artist was "not exactly forthcoming, put it that way," but that he didn't refuse to help the authorities at all.
There were only 27 gun deaths in Toronto last year.
Toronto has a population of 2.6 million.
How could you possibly feel unsafe, ever?
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So many dopeboys have failed at this, though...He bought his way in.
Have some disposable income and some ready made celebrity and you got a good chance.
Rapping is a sum of all parts though. I'm not saying having other people write your shyt is right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm just saying that being a "great rapper"...especially today...isn't about writing, that's just one of many components. You can be a great writer but a terrible rapper, the same way you can be a terrible writer but a great rapper. Same thing with singing TBH, you can either actually sing or you can't, but that isn't required to be a "great artist". There are plenty of "great artists" who just are cute and can dance and harmonize. Now if someone can rap AND can write, even better, but it's not a requirement. And if you are a purist who only wants to fukk with people who can do both, by all means you have that right.
Look at it this way in rapping vs singing, because ultimately in both genres the "end result" is what really moves the needle the most.
Give Jennifer Hudson and Rihanna a mic and no music and have them sing I Will Always Love you by Whitney Houston...there will be a HUGE difference; because J-Hud is a much much better singer. But Rihanna is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.
Now give QM and Drake a mic and no beat and tell them to rap the RICO verse. There will again be a HUGE difference, because Drake is a better Rapper. QM may have penned that verse, and overall may have a better pen game, but Drake is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.
With everything being online now and not needing that record label push, I don't think the old issues of not having the right look or age apply anymore. If you are nice or have a lane, you can get on. Just saying
Anyway, I appreciate the spirited debate
Hip Hop doesn't do cover bands. Nobody is gonna give you props to show up and rap somebody else's shyt whether you're convincing or not, that shyt is karaoke.
Give Drake's team to somebody like Justin Beiber and watch these fukking clowns put him on billboards next to Rakim because "he's a good rapper".
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yea i can definitely see where you are coming from. there's only one part that i don't understand reallyRapping is a sum of all parts though. I'm not saying having other people write your shyt is right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm just saying that being a "great rapper"...especially today...isn't about writing, that's just one of many components. You can be a great writer but a terrible rapper, the same way you can be a terrible writer but a great rapper. Same thing with singing TBH, you can either actually sing or you can't, but that isn't required to be a "great artist". There are plenty of "great artists" who just are cute and can dance and harmonize. Now if someone can rap AND can write, even better, but it's not a requirement. And if you are a purist who only wants to fukk with people who can do both, by all means you have that right.
Look at it this way in rapping vs singing, because ultimately in both genres the "end result" is what really moves the needle the most.
Give Jennifer Hudson and Rihanna a mic and no music and have them sing I Will Always Love you by Whitney Houston...there will be a HUGE difference; because J-Hud is a much much better singer. But Rihanna is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.
Now give QM and Drake a mic and no beat and tell them to rap the RICO verse. There will again be a HUGE difference, because Drake is a better Rapper. QM may have penned that verse, and overall may have a better pen game, but Drake is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.
With everything being online now and not needing that record label push, I don't think the old issues of not having the right look or age apply anymore. If you are nice or have a lane, you can get on. Just saying
Anyway, I appreciate the spirited debate
how can you say rhi and drake make better songs when they are purely copying a song already written and style and flowed for them
what i mean is... give j hud umbrellla and it'd be the exact same SONG with a less sexier person doing it... give rhianna "hit me one more time" by brit and it would be the same SONG... it wouldn't suddenly get better or catchier
only thing that changes is the person you are looking at.. and that's what i mean by, it doesn't take any talent. j-hud can't change her face and body but rhianna can autotune it up and use 100 effects
the qm, drake thing i agree.. only because drake does change up some lyrics, flow it better, and doesn't do a lil kim and biggie, verbatim copy
i guess what i'm saying is... if nobody ever helped drake write anything, would anybody know who he was or call him talented?
I don't know why these fools try to turn this into a long drawn out discussion. 40, Drake's producer, said if you get help with your bars you shouldn't be rapping. This is from 2012:
Noah '40' Shebib: Recording Drake's 'Headlines' | Sound On Sound
That's all that needs to be said. So these weirdos writing long ass dissertations on why it's technically OK need to get the fukk outta here. His own camp didn't even support ghost writing, until he got caught.
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Impossible. Wayne sounds like himself on there. Funny lines. Vulgar. His own slang.I think drake (or his tents) wrote Im single
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Indiglow Meta (R$G)
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Hip Hop doesn't do cover bands. Nobody is gonna give you props to show up and rap somebody else's shyt whether you're convincing or not, that shyt is karaoke.
Give Drake's team to somebody like Justin Beiber and watch these fukking clowns put him on billboards next to Rakim because "he's a good rapper".
They didn't have the JEWCE.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
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This is another verse he didn't write, though...
They haven't even done any real interviews ie....where they take random questions, since the allegations came out
No. The day the reference tracks dropped 40 was on Twitter copping pleas, never once mentioned the quote from 2012.
The only interview Drake did around that time was Fader, after the editor in chief had already wrote a full article talking about
"what's the big deal with using ghost writers?"
You've probably seen people use a smilie of her face when somebody says some culture vulture type shyt.
That's why I said, this isn't even worth a discussion. Drake and his camp actively lied to people for most of his career.
Fred.
