Rosenberg says Drake told him he used ghostwriters

[boskey]

21 years and I ain't never met a good cop

lol this might be the line that made me officially not like Drake. That shyt never sat right in my ears. My antennas went up immediately...

 

[boskey]

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[surv2syn]

I see your point and I generally agree. But Diddy, Kanye, Birdman many others have made MILLIONS with average voices, the most basic delivery and minimal mic presence. You can definitely fake it in hip hop...

again, different time. you can definitely fake it in this day and the days of Puffy/Birdman because true hip hop has been dead for some time. this offspring of music now is more about what is trendy or fad-ish and basically the b*stard of youtube and social media. its not as organic as back in the day so you dont go through as much of analyzing and breaking down lyrics or how unique sounding a beat is. not saying u couldnt fake it back then, just harder, but now, what is really real in today's hip hop?

 

[surv2syn]

lol this might be the line that made me officially not like Drake. That shyt never sat right in my ears. My antennas went up immediately...

shyt never sounded right

 

[Gold]

Damn

I can really go back and trace songs that I know he didn't write lol

That verse didn't really match his personal and it's evident now

You're right, that verse always felt off. Now we know why

 

[Run Up]

but i wasn't talking about that stuff

i said TALENT

looking handsome isn't a talent.. having better producers, mastering, effect, etc in the studio isn't a talent... performance is a talent but if you didn't borrow bars in the beginning, who would be showing up to see you perform.. flow, cadence, is exactly what he copied on those reference tracks... who knows what QM can do on stage cause he ain't getting no stadium tours based on his music.. he busy giving away multi plat hits

Rapping is a sum of all parts though. I'm not saying having other people write your shyt is right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm just saying that being a "great rapper"...especially today...isn't about writing, that's just one of many components. You can be a great writer but a terrible rapper, the same way you can be a terrible writer but a great rapper. Same thing with singing TBH, you can either actually sing or you can't, but that isn't required to be a "great artist". There are plenty of "great artists" who just are cute and can dance and harmonize. Now if someone can rap AND can write, even better, but it's not a requirement. And if you are a purist who only wants to fukk with people who can do both, by all means you have that right.

Look at it this way in rapping vs singing, because ultimately in both genres the "end result" is what really moves the needle the most.

Give Jennifer Hudson and Rihanna a mic and no music and have them sing I Will Always Love you by Whitney Houston...there will be a HUGE difference; because J-Hud is a much much better singer. But Rihanna is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.

Now give QM and Drake a mic and no beat and tell them to rap the RICO verse. There will again be a HUGE difference, because Drake is a better Rapper. QM may have penned that verse, and overall may have a better pen game, but Drake is a better total package and makes better/catchier songs, and thus is a way more popular Artist.

With everything being online now and not needing that record label push, I don't think the old issues of not having the right look or age apply anymore. If you are nice or have a lane, you can get on. Just saying

Anyway, I appreciate the spirited debate

 

[Rusty Kuntz]

Can't believe it's taken people this LONG to figure out he doesn't write

He has his hand on his hip like someone's aunty

 

[Henri Christophe]

That verse was crazy....


Nick F a problem

 

[ReasonableMatic]

I can't figure out what song he's referring to

All UV em.

Art Barr

No help, that's all me
Came up, that's all me
Stay true, that's all me
No help, that's all me
ALL ME FORREAL -

 

[killacal]

I clearly remember nikkas was really saying Drake wrote for Wayne back then

 

[hex]

I clearly remember nikkas was really saying Drake wrote for Wayne back then

He probably gave Wayne a verse Nickeleus F. wrote on some "Inception" shyt.

Fred.

 

[wingstop]

I clearly remember nikkas was really saying Drake wrote for Wayne back then

I think drake (or his tents) wrote Im single

 

[killacal]

He probably gave Wayne a verse Nickeleus F. wrote on some "Inception" shyt.

Fred.

 

[TBdaGhost]

Who gives a fukk if he writes or not. Hip hop is dead any damn way

 

[audemarzz]

Did he ever write any of his own shyt? i mean when he was first coming out? if not how can any of us say what fits drake cause there is no actual drake if its all written by other people.