Rosenberg says Drake told him he used ghostwriters

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if i hand you a piece of paper, play you a song of how to rap it, and give you a year to make it sound the same..... you could do it in a day

if i do the same thing and tell you to sing it just like MJ sang it... you can sit around for 160 years and you'll never make it match

the talent of rap is in the writing

Nah bruh. singing is a God given ability. if I don't have a voice, all the vocal coaching on earth won't ever make me able to hit notes. at best I can carry a tune. so I agree with u there.

Writing, meanwhile, is a skill. some people naturally are good at it, other people work to acquire it.

Rapping though is a combination of a lot of things. you need to have a voice people like, and mix in skills that you can work on like flow, cadence, etc. mostly skills you can hone. but there's also style and stage presence and other things that make the total package

By your definition above, there would never be ghostwriters. the dudes who pen those verses could record and release them and have the hits themselves. that is anything but the case. Plenty of people got sick pen games but lack most or all the other skills that make someone pop off

Look no further than QM. his reference tracks sound like bad karaoke versions of the final product Drake released. He could have re-recorded them a million times but never sounded exactly like Drake did at the end, because he lacks the other abilities there's a reason that guys career hasn't taken off as a solo artist . just saying :manny:
 

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Nah bruh. singing is a God given ability. if I don't have a voice, all the vocal coaching on earth won't ever make me able to hit notes. at best I can carry a tune. so I agree with u there.

Writing, meanwhile, is a skill. some people naturally are good at it, other people work to acquire it.

Rapping though is a combination of a lot of things. you need to have a voice people like, and mix in skills that you can work on like flow, cadence, etc. mostly skills you can hone. but there's also style and stage presence and other things that make the total package

By your definition above, there would never be ghostwriters. the dudes who pen those verses could record and release them and have the hits themselves. that is anything but the case. Plenty of people got sick pen games but lack most or all the other skills that make someone pop off

Look no further than QM. his reference tracks sound like bad karaoke versions of the final product Drake released. He could have re-recorded them a million times but never sounded exactly like Drake did at the end, because he lacks the other abilities there's a reason that guys career hasn't taken off as a solo artist . just saying :manny:
Ghostwriters exist because the person receiving the song has more star power or a larger fan base than the writer.

All reference tracks sound like bad Kareoke cause they aren't real songs.

There is no skill in reciting other people's words to a beat.
 

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Nah bruh. singing is a God given ability. if I don't have a voice, all the vocal coaching on earth won't ever make me able to hit notes. at best I can carry a tune. so I agree with u there.

Writing, meanwhile, is a skill. some people naturally are good at it, other people work to acquire it.

Rapping though is a combination of a lot of things. you need to have a voice people like, and mix in skills that you can work on like flow, cadence, etc. mostly skills you can hone. but there's also style and stage presence and other things that make the total package

By your definition above, there would never be ghostwriters. the dudes who pen those verses could record and release them and have the hits themselves. that is anything but the case. Plenty of people got sick pen games but lack most or all the other skills that make someone pop off

Look no further than QM. his reference tracks sound like bad karaoke versions of the final product Drake released. He could have re-recorded them a million times but never sounded exactly like Drake did at the end, because he lacks the other abilities there's a reason that guys career hasn't taken off as a solo artist . just saying :manny:
The problem is ur comparing reference tracks to songs recorded in a million dollar studio with top of the line engineers. Reference tracks are just that. References. They're not meant to be as good as a recorded and quality controled track to be released to the public. Also. I'm tired of people using that excuse that ghostwriters are missing something that the fraud has. No. Nas. Jay. Cube. Pac. Biggie. Cam. etc etc were all ghostwriters and tell me wtf they didn't have that the person they wrote for does? shyt is a lame excuse. In hip hop to be considered a great emcee u have to have the whole package. If u dont. Than u not a great emcee. All this shortcut shyt ain't doin shyt but giving people an excuse to not work on they skills. And shyt. U may be a great entertainer. But don't walk around acting like u this great rapper if u can't even do the bare minimum and write ya shyt. My 11 year old son could spit some lyrics I write for him. That shyt aint impressive. Being that the writer is the person who creates the flow and everything. And I'm talking about a persin like Drizzy who doesn't really do shyt but pick songs and record em verbatim. There's def grey areas but we ain't talkin bout that.
 

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This line doesn't even sound like Drake's style at all lol

And the big dikk bandit line and all that
 

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i love how certain people cannot see the difference between rapping and singing


if i hand you a piece of paper, play you a song of how to rap it, and give you a year to make it sound the same..... you could do it in a day


if i do the same thing and tell you to sing it just like MJ sang it... you can sit around for 160 years and you'll never make it match



the talent of rap is in the writing

:whew: facts.

also some of the best singers are the worst writers and some of the worst singers are the best writers.

anyway, yeah, this shyt is old news....but nikka not only a fraud, he reckless. Nick was hesitant to give him up in that Complex interview but Drake immediately tossed him under the bus by saying he didnt write the verse after someone told him it was wack. :pacspit:

like nobody was gonna ever find this shyt out. :ufdup:
 

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Nah bruh. singing is a God given ability. if I don't have a voice, all the vocal coaching on earth won't ever make

me able to hit notes. at best I can carry a tune. so I agree with u there.

Writing, meanwhile, is a skill. some people naturally are good at it, other people work to acquire it.

Rapping though is a combination of a lot of things. you need to have a voice people like, and mix in skills that you can work on like flow, cadence, etc. mostly skills you can hone. but there's also style and stage presence and other things that make the total package

By your definition above, there would never be ghostwriters. the dudes who pen those verses could record and release them and have the hits themselves. that is anything but the case. Plenty of people got sick pen games but lack most or all the other skills that make someone pop off

Look no further than QM. his reference tracks sound like bad karaoke versions of the final product Drake released. He could have re-recorded them a million times but never sounded exactly like Drake did at the end, because he lacks the other abilities there's a reason that guys career hasn't taken off as a solo artist . just saying :manny:

:mjlol:

 

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Ghostwriters exist because the person receiving the song has more star power or a larger fan base than the writer.

All reference tracks sound like bad Kareoke cause they aren't real songs.

There is no skill in reciting other people's words to a beat.

Nah bruh. singing is a God given ability. if I don't have a voice, all the vocal coaching on earth won't ever make me able to hit notes. at best I can carry a tune. so I agree with u there.

Writing, meanwhile, is a skill. some people naturally are good at it, other people work to acquire it.

Rapping though is a combination of a lot of things. you need to have a voice people like, and mix in skills that you can work on like flow, cadence, etc. mostly skills you can hone. but there's also style and stage presence and other things that make the total package

By your definition above, there would never be ghostwriters. the dudes who pen those verses could record and release them and have the hits themselves. that is anything but the case. Plenty of people got sick pen games but lack most or all the other skills that make someone pop off

Look no further than QM. his reference tracks sound like bad karaoke versions of the final product Drake released. He could have re-recorded them a million times but never sounded exactly like Drake did at the end, because he lacks the other abilities there's a reason that guys career hasn't taken off as a solo artist . just saying :manny:

its viewed different now. back in the day, you just cant call yourself an MC and let ANYONE write ANY part of what you do. all this "we bounce ideas off of each other" thats b.s. unless you wrting some duet type shyt like Jada/Styles. I was watchin D.O.C. interview the other day and he said they pushed each other in the studio and he had some shyt sometimes that made Cube re-write his shyt and vise-versa. the point is, neither of them said "yo, lemme hold that verse...."
 
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