Rape Culture? Rape case unfolds on Twitter and divides town

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I heard Ariel Levy use this term 'rape culture' in a podcast a few weeks back talking about the military.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100928823

By: Mary Noonan, Senior Producer
CNBC.com | Monday, 5 Aug 2013 | 4:02 PM ET
Following the arrests of two Torrington High School football players in the sexual assault of two 13-year-old girls, the newspaper in the Connecticut town turned to social media to see if there was any chatter about the case.

It discovered Tweets defending the accused, Joan Toribio and Edgar Gonzalez, and not the victims.

"We started seeing the tweets, that's where kind of our jaws dropped, that this would be out there in public and that the kids would be so cruel to each other," said Matt DeRienzo, top editor of The Register Citizen of Torrington.

So the newspaper put some of the tweets on Page One, setting off an uproar over the commentaries.

"When the honor roll kids' tweet—calling a 13-year-old rape victim a whore—is on the front page of the newspaper, you can't really walk away from that,"

The tweets calling the girls "whores" and "sluts" shocked parents, fellow students and school officials including school superintendent Cheryl Kloczko "I'm thinking these are 13-year-old girls. In my mind, they're still babies," she said. Meetings were organized, victim advocates were launched and the school's cyberbullying policy was interpreted and reinterpreted.

CNBC's Carl Quintanilla gathered a group of Torrington High School students to talk about the case. They all knew the kids who had tweeted about the girls, and while they were offended by the words, most of them said people have a right to say what they want on Twitter. Where they disagreed was whether the newspaper should have published the tweets, which in some cases included the writer's names and picture. Jenna Gyuricsko called it "unfair" but senior Brianna Cole disagreed "I think it was fair game. When you're putting something on a public forum like that, that anybody can see, there's no difference between it being on your Twitter and it being in the newspaper."

Four students were suspended for their tweets. Gonzalez pleaded guilty to second-degree sexual assault and Toribio is awaiting trial.
 
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you can get suspended for tweets?? thats kinda crazy, imo.
 

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fine line...

Not sure if I agree with publishing the tweets.

Not going to even bother dabbling into age of consent laws and women today.
 
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People are actually attacking the publishing of the tweets? :mindblown:

If you don't want the shyt out there then don't fukking tweet it where the public can read it

I'll bet they'd defend it if it was a tweet from a cac dropping the n-word left and right
 

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This idea of there being a "Rape culture" is just another form of feminist propaganda
 

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This idea of there being a "Rape culture" is just another form of feminist propaganda
yeah? I thought it had something to do with the massive cover ups in the military that sorta created a culture in which rape was never really addressed as seriously as it needs to be...or in some cases at all.

Who knew it was just feminist.
 

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yeah? I thought it had something to do with the massive cover ups in the military that sorta created a culture in which rape was never really addressed as seriously as it needs to be...or in some cases at all.

Who knew it was just feminist.

"Rape culture" implies we live in a time where the majority of men think rape is ok and socially acceptable. You and I both know that's not close go being true

That's why I say its propaganda along with the "gender pay gap myth" which has been disproved proved over and over and over again
 

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"Rape culture" implies we live in a time where the majority of men think rape is ok and socially acceptable. You and I both know that's not close go being true

That's why I say its propaganda along with the "gender pay gap myth" which has been disproved proved over and over and over again
I don't know B when you have dudes calling 13 year old rape victims "whores" it sorta makes you wonder why they think it's ok.

When someone says "rape culture" I'm pretty sure they're not saying that a majority of men agree with rape, just that there's a large enough portion of the population that victimizes the victim to cause pause for concern.
 

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I don't know B when you have dudes calling 13 year old rape victims "whores" it sorta makes you wonder why they think it's ok.

When someone says "rape culture" I'm pretty sure they're not saying that a majority of men agree with rape, just that there's a large enough portion of the population that victimizes the victim to cause pause for concern.

Who are these dudes tho fam?Random guys here and there making comments on the Internet? Come on dude you really think that it's a "large enough portion of the male population"?:russ: Think about what we're saying here

Look, I'm not saying there aren't weirdos who believe this crap that aren't just trolling what I'm saying is that its a very very TINY portion of guys and that's certainly not enough to justify saying its a "culture". When you say something is a culture your taking it to a whole other level
 

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Who are these dudes tho fam?Random guys here and there making comments on the Internet? Come on dude you really think that it's a "large enough portion of the male population"?:russ: Think about what we're saying here

Look, I'm not saying there aren't weirdos who believe this crap that aren't just trolling what I'm saying is that its a very very TINY portion of guys and that's certainly not enough to justify saying its a "culture". When you say something is a culture your taking it to a whole other level
I'm just saying there's a large enough portion of the population like this for it to support the claim. At the least "rape subculture" ?

Is there a particular percent that would constitute calling it a "rape culture?" 51%? 75%. When is it culture vs a fringe?
 

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Who are these dudes tho fam?Random guys here and there making comments on the Internet? Come on dude you really think that it's a "large enough portion of the male population"?:russ: Think about what we're saying here

Look, I'm not saying there aren't weirdos who believe this crap that aren't just trolling what I'm saying is that its a very very TINY portion of guys and that's certainly not enough to justify saying its a "culture". When you say something is a culture your taking it to a whole other level

Kinda agree with both of you in a way.

Street Knowledge you are probably right that the term rape culture probably overstates the extent to which rape is condoned, encouraged and supported. Probably.

But I think the purpose of the term is to highlight the gravity of the issue. One forcible rape is one too many don't you agree? Four tweeters supporting child rapists is four too many right? I mean I know these numbers will never be zero but there's no reason why rape victims should have to legitimately fear that they will be called whores and sluts if they report rapes.

I think sounding a loud alarm by using a term like 'rape culture' is meant to get people to wake up and try and do what they can to address the seriousness of problem.
 

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Breh the average 13 year old in America is a slore.
 

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I don't know B when you have dudes calling 13 year old rape victims "whores" it sorta makes you wonder why they think it's ok.

When someone says "rape culture" I'm pretty sure they're not saying that a majority of men agree with rape, just that there's a large enough portion of the population that victimizes the victim to cause pause for concern.
Who are these dudes?

As far S I know they are classmates who commented.

They prob know the "victims" better than we do...
 
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