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Let us be :blessed: in this month of fasting, the month the Qur'an was revealed.

My favorite part is when Muhammad gets his revelation when hes ALL by himself alone and god seems to speak with hiim...in a cave... :snoop:

...or when he ascends to heaven...on a winged horse... :pachaha:

Hey, I want you to answer this: Why do muslims always claim the Quran was revealed perfectly, but before Uthman, there were several versions of the Quran. In fact, didn't Abu Bakr not want to give his version up once Uthman came to power?
 

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My favorite part is when Muhammad gets his revelation when hes ALL by himself alone and god seems to speak with hiim...in a cave... :snoop:

...or when he ascends to heaven...on a winged horse... :pachaha:

Hey, I want you to answer this: Why do muslims always claim the Quran was revealed perfectly, but before Uthman, there were several versions of the Quran. In fact, didn't Abu Bakr not want to give his version up once Uthman came to power?

The inevitable :troll: post. And there weren't several versions. The Qur'an's text has been the same. The only thing Uthman did during his time was to change the order of the surahs. To where, the verses revealed in Mecca are at the end of the Qur'an and the verses revealed in Medina are at the beginning for the most part.

Muslims have memorized the entire book ever since the time of the Prophet. It really is a special thing to memorize the entire thing. My own father has memorized the entire Qur'an by memory.
After the death of the Prophet Muhammad, the entire Quran continued to be remembered in the hearts of the early Muslims. Hundreds of the early Companions of the Prophet had memorized the entire revelation, and Muslims daily recited large portions of the text from memory. Many of the early Muslims also had personal written copies of the Quran recorded on various materials.

Ten years after the Hijrah (632 C.E.), many of these scribes and early Muslim devotees were killed in the Battle of Yamama. While the community mourned the loss of their comrades, they also began to worry about the long-term preservation of the Holy Quran. Recognizing that the words of Allah needed to be collected in one place and preserved, the Caliph Abu Bakr ordered all people who had written pages of the Quran to compile them in one place. The project was organized and supervised by one of the Prophet Muhammad’s key scribes, Zayd bin Thabit.

The process of compiling the Quran from these various written pages was done in four steps:

Zayd bin Thabit verified each verse with his own memory.
Umar ibn Al-Khattab verified each verse. Both men had memorized the entire Quran.
Two reliable witnesses had to testify that the verses were written in the presence of the Prophet Muhammad.
The verified written verses were collated with those from the collections of other Companions.

This method of cross-checking and verifying from more than one source was undertaken with the utmost care. The purpose was to prepare an organized document which the entire community could verify, endorse, and use as a resource when needed.

This complete text of the Quran was kept in the possession of Abu Bakr, and then passed on to the next Caliph, Umar ibn Al-Khattab. After his death, they were given to his daughter Hafsah (who was also a widow of the Prophet Muhammad).

Under Supervision of Caliph Uthman bin Affan
As Islam began to spread throughout the Arabian peninsula, more and more people entered the fold of Islam from as far away as Persia and Byzantine. Many of these new Muslims were not native Arabic speakers, or they spoke a slightly different Arabic pronunciation from the tribes in Makkah and Madinah. People began to dispute about which pronunciations were most correct. Caliph Uthman bin Affan took charge of ensuring that the recitation of the Quran is of a standard pronunciation.

The first step was to borrow the original, compiled copy of the Quran from Hafsah. A committee of early Muslim scribes was tasked with making transcripts of the original copy, and ensuring the sequence of the chapters (surahs). When these perfect copies had been completed, Uthman bin Affan ordered all remaining transcripts to be destroyed, so that all copies of the Quran were uniform in script.

All Qurans available in the world today are exactly identical to the Uthmani version, which was completed less than twenty years after the death of Prophet Muhammad.

Later, some minor improvements were made in the Arabic script (adding dots and diacritical marks), to make it easier for non-Arabs to read. However, the text of the Quran has remained the same.
 

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The inevitable :troll: post. And there weren't several versions. The Qur'an's text has been the same. The only thing Uthman did during his time was to change the order of the surahs. To where, the verses revealed in Mecca are at the end of the Qur'an and the verses revealed in Medina are at the beginning for the most part.

Muslims have memorized the entire book ever since the time of the Prophet. It really is a special thing to memorize the entire thing. My own father has memorized the entire Qur'an by memory.

ACTUALLY...nope.

See, there were different versions because before Uthman, there were textual differences. Thats why Abu Bakr didn't want to give his version up...initially. Probably had to have a "come to allah " meeting. :merchant:

and LOL at you admitting that the book was tampered with.

As if changing the order of the story doesn't change the fukking story... :comeon:
 

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ACTUALLY...nope.

See, there were different versions because before Uthman, there were textual differences. Thats why Abu Bakr didn't want to give his version up...initially. Probably had to have a "come to allah " meeting. :merchant:

and LOL at you admitting that the book was tampered with.

As if changing the order of the story doesn't change the fukking story... :comeon:

:pachaha: nikka, its the same Qur'an. The verses are the same.

The order and compilation is pretty much the longer surahs at the beginning (mostly revealed in Medina) and the shorter ones at the end (mostly revealed in Mecca).

Anyway you slice it, they all memorized the same thing.

Today, there are millions of people who have memorized the Qur'an and if all copies of it were burnt or destroyed, they could re-write it. It really is that simple. It was a standardization so that future confusion be avoided.

Ulum al Qur'an - THE MUSHAF OF 'UTHMAN- SunniPath Library - Books

there's a time line right there
 

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Can you buy slaves during Ramadan? Can you marry and fukk 9-year-olds? I already know the Qu'ran allows it the rest of the year.
 
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