R&B is still alive brehs

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This is not R&B this is a style of the pop music that imitates R&B.
Where is the rhythm? I hear a beat like rhythm and blues that may as well be a click track, I don't hear or feel rhythm.
Where is the blues? I hear some chords, but I don't hear the blues in those chords.

What I hear and feel is some chord packs, unquantized beats 'cause Dilla did it, a dash of music theory and a semester of voice classes.
This is not R&B, it's pop music imitating rhythm and blues by young adults who wanna catch a vibe and water down a genre of music they don't have the skill to actually pull off. Shyt super lame, lifeless and cliche. Issa textbook reason why real R&B dying. R&B still alive, but it's in bad shape.
This is R&B for people doom scrolling on Tumblr.
 
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This is not R&B this is a style of the pop music that imitates R&B.
Where is the rhythm? I hear a beat like rhythm and blues that may as well be a click track, I don't hear or feel rhythm.
Where is the blues? I hear some chords, but I don't hear the blues in those chords.

What I hear and feel is some chord packs, unquantized beats 'cause Dilla did it, a dash of music theory and a semester of voice classes.
This is not R&B, it's pop music imitating rhythm and blues by young adults who wanna catch a vibe and water down a genre of music they don't have the skill to actually pull off. Shyt super lame, lifeless and cliche. Issa textbook reason why real R&B dying. R&B still alive, but it's in bad shape.
This is R&B for people doom scrolling on Tumblr.

They need to put the church element, and slight blues jazz and funk back into it

This down tempo trap pop got no strings or horns or danceable basslines


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RNB music has been good the last 6 years, I’d argue it came back in like 2017. The music itself is good, these mfs can’t sing though.

They trying. The music isn’t bad at all, but 3 of the vids posted in the OP are essentially the same vibe and the vocals are lackluster compared to yesteryear… This is airy pop music…. It’s more of a vibe than actually soulful
 

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These girlies not sanging
Mfs too cool to these days or damaged their voices smoking, yelling and drinking brown liquor with no gag reflex. Some can't really sing so they sing.
Where the emotion? Where the heartfelt lyric complemented by the vocal melody that puts the blues in the sentimental mood.
Where the passion go? R&B ain't meant for everybody to perform even if everybody listening to it. Some work you gotta leave to the masters of the originators. All this shyt feel like neo-soul copy-paste or reworked middle-to-late career Aaliyah demos. And that's probably how we got here.
Slowly, they erase the essence of what made the genre what it was and replace it with the generic artificial gentrified vibe.

This dropped in '94:


This dropped in '01:


This is more than a vibe, but an individual experience with blackness for the times. It's more than a style of the pop music genre, even though there is commercial appeal and either song could be on radio you know these women put themselves in their songs. Both songs got light vocals, but you feel where they comin' from.

Aaliyah said, "I don't think you're ready for this thing."

:ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd:
I was a shorty tryna find out what that thing was 'cause she made me wanna be ready. I felt her through the speakers.

:francis::francis::francis:
Nobody feelin' this new shyt but folk who wanna be down when it's cool to be down.
I don't remember the lyrics or melodies of the songs posted, but I remember Aaliyah said to rock the boat, work the middle, change positions and stroke it.

:mjcry::mjcry::mjcry:


Where did the love go, Black America?
 

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Mfs too cool to these days or damaged their voices smoking, yelling and drinking brown liquor with no gag reflex. Some can't really sing so they sing.
Where the emotion? Where the heartfelt lyric complemented by the vocal melody that puts the blues in the sentimental mood.
Where the passion go? R&B ain't meant for everybody to perform even if everybody listening to it. Some work you gotta leave to the masters of the originators. All this shyt feel like neo-soul copy-paste or reworked middle-to-late career Aaliyah demos. And that's probably how we got here.
Slowly, they erase the essence of what made the genre what it was and replace it with the generic artificial gentrified vibe.

This dropped in '94:


This dropped in '01:


This is more than a vibe, but an individual experience with blackness for the times. It's more than a style of the pop music genre, even though there is commercial appeal and either song could be on radio you know these women put themselves in their songs. Both songs got light vocals, but you feel where they comin' from.

Aaliyah said, "I don't think you're ready for this thing."

:ohlawd::ohlawd::ohlawd:
I was a shorty tryna find out what that thing was 'cause she made me wanna be ready. I felt her through the speakers.

:francis::francis::francis:
Nobody feelin' this new shyt but folk who wanna be down when it's cool to be down.
I don't remember the lyrics or melodies of the songs posted, but I remember Aaliyah said to rock the boat, work the middle, change positions and stroke it.

:mjcry::mjcry::mjcry:


Where did the love go, Black America?

Well the light airy sound took over so thats all you see even on some of the underground stuff. I feel like the sounds of crenshaw/lermert guys have been putting out great RB for a while. All the label heads are looking for a the next Jhene/Tyla until it gets played out.
 

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I don't have the language to describe the sonic details, but the R&B in the 90's had instruments and like a lush sound, that romantic, and kind of dramatic, without sounding cheap or soulless. Of course some of the Rodney Jerkins late 90's had kind of that cheaper sound, but a lot of the music to me just sounds shallow.

equating for nostalgia, there's no way to say something like Brian McKnight Anytime or Whitney Houston I Have Nothing sounds like some of the modern stuff. whatever the examples are. and I like some of it, I fukked with Byrson Tiller and DVSN a little.

it's also the culture. The romantic and grandiose language, which obviously could be over the top, timeless kind of language, and melodramatic of the 90's -compared more to the 'immature' social media speak of the 2010/2020, doesn't have the same effect. but it's for a different audience.
 
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