Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Carolina Slim]

I saw something where the homie Chauncey Billups was saying that big time FA point guards are not going to want to play for a structured offense like the triangle, they prefer the popular pick and roll basketball of today.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

I saw something where the homie Chauncey Billups was saying that big time FA point guards are not going to want to play for a structured offense like the triangle, they prefer the popular pick and roll basketball of today.

He did

“I will tell you this about that triangle,’’ Billups said. “If I’m a top point guard and a free agent, I’m not going to want to be playing in that triangle. A point guard needs more pick-and-roll, more freedom. It’s going to be restrictive to my play. I think that would be a good thing — if they are opening it up a little. It’s the only way to get a point guard.’’

Billups: How triangle could ruin Carmelo’s dwindling prime | New York Post

 

[Hammer]

rofl Rambis is a horrible coach....Phil is fukking retarded

give Walton a blank check Phil

 

[OsO]

Rambis?

Walton?

Rondo?

Tony Wroten?

Where's the Hennessey

 

[storyteller]

Given what we could be potentially looking at as far as a coaching hire, I wouldn't be too mad at that. Blatt was screwed in that he just happened to be the coach when LeBron decided to come home; that wasn't the team he had signed up to coach. He went to Princeton so I'd assume he would be smart enough to learn from his mistakes the first time around, and stop acting like he's an all time great coach just cause he got busy in Europe and realize the nba is a different animal.

I can't believe I support this.

Yeah, Blatt enters my list because the alternatives could be Rambis or Shaw...also, cats with opinions I respect have said he's a LOT BETTER than what happened in Cleveland which nobody says about Shaw or Rambis because that'd just be wrong.

 

[storyteller]

Sidenote to everyone hating on the idea of Rondo...How much better than Rondo is Conley because dude is gonna command 20+ million dollars a season while Rondo is playing for 9.5 this season and his next contract will be at 30 years old. Last season I was saying to get him on a 1+1(that's one year plus an option second year) at 7-9 milli and I'd do something similar (with even a bit of a raise to fit the cap increases) over Conley for 4 years 25 mil. Look at the rest of the PG's available, it's not pretty. Rondo's extremely intelligent and creative, we could use that and the dude has a competitive fire that we really need in the locker room. We've got a lot of character guys but they're all good soldiers and Melo is a lead by example type, somebody that'll get in a player's face for being lazy would be useful. I think Joakim Noah's close to done, but for exception money (short term btw), I'd add him for the same reason. We need a guy or two who won't stand for the listless starts and long losing streaks.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Sidenote to everyone hating on the idea of Rondo...How much better than Rondo is Conley because dude is gonna command 20+ million dollars a season while Rondo is playing for 9.5 this season and his next contract will be at 30 years old. Last season I was saying to get him on a 1+1(that's one year plus an option second year) at 7-9 milli and I'd do something similar (with even a bit of a raise to fit the cap increases) over Conley for 4 years 25 mil. Look at the rest of the PG's available, it's not pretty. Rondo's extremely intelligent and creative, we could use that and the dude has a competitive fire that we really need in the locker room. We've got a lot of character guys but they're all good soldiers and Melo is a lead by example type, somebody that'll get in a player's face for being lazy would be useful. I think Joakim Noah's close to done, but for exception money (short term btw), I'd add him for the same reason. We need a guy or two who won't stand for the listless starts and long losing streaks.

i said we shoulda got rondo last season
coulda got him for cheap too
he was there for the taking
we should still get him
cheaper than conley

 

[JerseyFinest!]

But how the team lacks quality talent in comparison to the other teams in the league for the most part. It went well for a team that doesn't own it's pick develop the younger players.

The Talent in the NBA as a whole is watered down, I look at the teams in the east, I'm not impressed. Knicks went on a month stretch where they resembled the team from last year, that was the season killer.

One of the things I loved about this team before that stretch was they competed and we're competitive. I remember going into the GS game feeling like we really had a chance to win just off the fact the team was competing regardless of the competition.

Yeah we improved from last season as a whole,
But Was that improvement enough to intrigue FAs this off-season, thats why finishing the season strong is mad important

 

[NatiboyB]

The Talent in the NBA as a whole is watered down, I look at the teams in the east, I'm not impressed. Knicks went on a month stretch where they resembled the team from last year, that was the season killer.

One of the things I loved about this team before that stretch was they competed and we're competitive. I remember going into the GS game feeling like we really had a chance to win just off the fact the team was competing regardless of the competition.

Yeah we improved from last season as a whole,
But Was that improvement enough to intrigue FAs this off-season, thats why finishing the season strong is mad important

I can't name too many teams that the Knicks have more talent than...But having A star in Melo and a rising star in Zingis goes a long way but the rest are also rans and bench fodder.

 

[RickyGQ]

Howard Beck likes us signing Brandon Jennings and Kent Bazemore this summer. Sending Afflalo to the bench as 6th man. Wouldn't be mad at all at this.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

And in Knicks rumor for the day Dwight Howard is interested in joining the Knicks in free agency

 

[ikbm]

And in Knicks rumor for the day Dwight Howard is interested in joining the Knicks in free agency

keep that bytch ass nikka away from this franchise

 

[Wargames]

Sidenote to everyone hating on the idea of Rondo...How much better than Rondo is Conley because dude is gonna command 20+ million dollars a season while Rondo is playing for 9.5 this season and his next contract will be at 30 years old. Last season I was saying to get him on a 1+1(that's one year plus an option second year) at 7-9 milli and I'd do something similar (with even a bit of a raise to fit the cap increases) over Conley for 4 years 25 mil. Look at the rest of the PG's available, it's not pretty. Rondo's extremely intelligent and creative, we could use that and the dude has a competitive fire that we really need in the locker room. We've got a lot of character guys but they're all good soldiers and Melo is a lead by example type, somebody that'll get in a player's face for being lazy would be useful. I think Joakim Noah's close to done, but for exception money (short term btw), I'd add him for the same reason. We need a guy or two who won't stand for the listless starts and long losing streaks.

I don't want the knicks to give that money to Conley but Rondo is gonna want years to come here and dribble the air out the ball.

 

[OsO]

Sidenote to everyone hating on the idea of Rondo...How much better than Rondo is Conley because dude is gonna command 20+ million dollars a season while Rondo is playing for 9.5 this season and his next contract will be at 30 years old. Last season I was saying to get him on a 1+1(that's one year plus an option second year) at 7-9 milli and I'd do something similar (with even a bit of a raise to fit the cap increases) over Conley for 4 years 25 mil. Look at the rest of the PG's available, it's not pretty. Rondo's extremely intelligent and creative, we could use that and the dude has a competitive fire that we really need in the locker room. We've got a lot of character guys but they're all good soldiers and Melo is a lead by example type, somebody that'll get in a player's face for being lazy would be useful. I think Joakim Noah's close to done, but for exception money (short term btw), I'd add him for the same reason. We need a guy or two who won't stand for the listless starts and long losing streaks.

Storyteller you my man... but Rondo is a pound-the-rock-for-18-seconds-PG-who-passes-mostly-when-there's-an-assist-opportunity headcase with a bad attitude who can't shoot.

Nobody got time for that bro.

 

[Wargames]

Howard Beck likes us signing Brandon Jennings and Kent Bazemore this summer. Sending Afflalo to the bench as 6th man. Wouldn't be mad at all at this.

Thats actually a decent compromise between appeasing the people who swear we just need a PG to be a midtier playoff team.



And the people who want to get youth for the "post-Melo" years