President Uhuru Kenyatta signs Kenya polygamy law

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President Uhuru Kenyatta signs Kenya polygamy law

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Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta has signed into law a controversial marriage bill legalising polygamy.

It brings civil law, where a man was only allowed one wife, into line with customary law, where some cultures allow multiple partners.

'Demeaning'

Last month, female MPs walked out of parliament in disgust after their male counterparts voted through the amendment.

They argued that a decision to take on another wife would affect the whole family, including the financial position of other spouses.

The bill was also opposed by Christian leaders who urged the president not to sign it into law, saying it undermined Christian principles of marriage and family.

"The tone of that bill, if it becomes law, would be demeaning to women since it does not respect the principle of equality of spouses in the institution of marriage," Archbishop Timothy Ndambuki, from the National Council of Churches of Kenya (NCCK), was quoted by Kenya's Standard newspaper as saying.

The marriage legislation has been under discussion for several years and some initial proposals were scrapped at committee stages.

It has abolished the practice of unofficial traditional marriages which were never registered and could be ended without any legal divorce proceedings.

But plans to ban the payment of bride prices were dropped - although a person must be 18 to marry and this now applies to all cultures.

Inheritance chaos?
MPs did reject the committee amendment which said a woman should only be entitled to 30% of matrimonial property after death or divorce.

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Kenyans now have to be 18 to marry and this applies to all cultures
The law now allows for equal property and inheritance rights - previously a woman had to prove her contribution to the couple's wealth.

However, the BBC's Frenny Jowi in the capital, Nairobi, says this aspect of the legislation could create chaos in polygamous marriages.

The law stipulates that a wife is entitled to an equal share of whatever the couple acquired during their marriage but in the case of multiple partners it is going to be difficult to determine what each spouse is entitled to if one of them divorces or their husband dies, she says.

There had also been a proposal to recognise co-habiting couples, known in Kenya as "come-we-stay" relationships, after six months, but this too was dropped.

It would have allowed a woman to seek maintenance for herself and any children of the union, had the man left.

Kenya's marriage bill
  • Bans marriage for those under 18
  • All marriages - even customary unions - must be registered
  • Legalises polygamy, allowing men to marry as many partner as they wish without consulting other spouses
  • A woman is entitled to 50% of property acquired during marriage
  • Specifies that marriage is between a man and a woman, but does not explicitly ban custom of an infertile woman marrying a younger woman
  • Proposals dropped: Banning bride price payments, recognising cohabiting, or "come-we-stay", relationships
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Controversy surrounded an amendment to the bill, supported by many male MPs, allowing men to take more wives without consulting existing spouses.

Traditionally, first wives are supposed to give prior approval.
 

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this is not gonna end nicely... for anyone...

A woman is entitled to 50% of property acquired during marriage

What the fukk???? and what if he marries 2 wives and they both want a divorce financially thats gonna fukk up your game...
 

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I wonder wat happen if a woman wanna marry as many guys as she want...Wats good for the goose is good for the gander right?
 

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I found this information on the Nandi people who practice female-female marriage.

Female-female marriages within the Nandi culture have been reported,[1] although it is unclear if they are still practiced, and only about three percent of Nandi marriages are female-female. Female-female marriages are a socially-approved way for a woman to take over the social and economic roles of a husband and father. They were allowed only in cases where a woman either had no children of her own, had daughters only (one of them could be "retained" at home) or her daughter(s) had married off. The system was practiced "to keep the fire"—in other words, to sustain the family lineage, or patriline, and was a way to work around the problem of infertility or a lack of male heirs. A woman who married another woman for this purpose had to undergo an "inversion" ceremony to "change" into a man. This biological woman, now socially male, became a "husband" to a younger female and a "father" to the younger woman's children, and had to provide a bride price to her wife's family. She was expected to renounce her female duties (such as housework), and take on the obligations of a husband; additionally, she was allowed the social privileges accorded to men, such as attending the private male circumcision ceremonies. No sexual relations were permitted between the female husband and her new wife (nor between the female husband and her old husband); rather, the female husband chose a male consort for the new wife so she will be able to bear children. The wife's children considered the female husband to be their father, not the biological father, because she (or "he") was the socially designated father.

Nandi people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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I wonder wat happen if a woman wanna marry as many guys as she want...Wats good for the goose is good for the gander right?
This is why its gonna be a problem and why I can find no fault with gay marriage and why its easy to separate the two.

IF governments are going to have marrriages, it can only be between two individuals.

If not, then you get a bunch of people zapping up viable mates in the marketplace and leaving out a bunch of single folks who can't compete with people who demonstrate better value in the dating market by having the ability ot care for that many more people.

its just a terrible look.
 

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This is why its gonna be a problem and why I can find no fault with gay marriage and why its easy to separate the two.

IF governments are going to have marrriages, it can only be between two individuals.

If not, then you get a bunch of people zapping up viable mates in the marketplace and leaving out a bunch of single folks who can't compete with people who demonstrate better value in the dating market by having the ability ot care for that many more people.

its just a terrible look.
I just think it's a slippery slope that if a gay marriage is allowed then wats next?...bt seriously I realized that for people like my self who is against gay marriage we're fighting a losing battle...the gay folks can already receive federal benefits, adopt kids, get "civil unions" certificates...we lost that fight already...we need to focus on black on black crime which is what is really holding us back as a nation...
 

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I just think it's a slippery slope that if a gay marriage is allowed then wats next?...bt seriously I realized that for people like my self who is against gay marriage we're fighting a losing battle...the gay folks can already receive federal benefits, adopt kids, get "civil unions" certificates...we lost that fight already...we need to focus on black on black crime which is what is really holding us back as a nation...

You sound dumb as hell

Listen.

Gay people AINT gonna stop being gay if they can't be married. So being against gay marriage doesn't make sense.

You m ight as well step back and start being against gay people even existing.

Marriage is NOTHING MORE than a business contract.

Marriage resolves things like property disputes, gives tax benefits, ensures healthcare privileges etc.

Thats it.

Its not some lovely dovey shyt. Its about benefits and resources at the end of the day and if two gay people are already enjoying that, then the state should allow it.

HOWEVER, polygamy fukks that equation up because it leads to a SKEW of resources towards only those that can keep a bunch on payroll.

Look at dudes like Donald Sterling. If he can wife up legally 10 women, then thats 9 women who fukk up 9 other dudes who may have had a chance to get with them.

Multiply this by hundreds of times out of nations of millions and you get a bunch of women who get zapped up out of the market and that leaves THAT MANY MORE men who can't compete or get mates.


Even further, this applies to gays in that if there is say one "gay leader" who marries a bunch of other partners, that takes THAT MANY partners out of the game for other people to get whtn.

I support peoples right to polyamory...love/sleep with/smash all and as many as you want...but POLYGAMY as in government recognized unions doesn't help the country because its harder for individuals to create their own prosperity and build their own individual lives.

Look at places that have polygamy. You have A BUNCH of angry dudes who can't get ANYTHING out here cause the only ones who have any access to mates are those with proven resources or skill or etc.
 

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You sound dumb as hell

Listen.

Gay people AINT gonna stop being gay if they can't be married. So being against gay marriage doesn't make sense.

You m ight as well step back and start being against gay people even existing.

Marriage is NOTHING MORE than a business contract.

Marriage resolves things like property disputes, gives tax benefits, ensures healthcare privileges etc.

Thats it.

Its not some lovely dovey shyt. Its about benefits and resources at the end of the day and if two gay people are already enjoying that, then the state should allow it.

HOWEVER, polygamy fukks that equation up because it leads to a SKEW of resources towards only those that can keep a bunch on payroll.

Look at dudes like Donald Sterling. If he can wife up legally 10 women, then thats 9 women who fukk up 9 other dudes who may have had a chance to get with them.

Multiply this by hundreds of times out of nations of millions and you get a bunch of women who get zapped up out of the market and that leaves THAT MANY MORE men who can't compete or get mates.


Even further, this applies to gays in that if there is say one "gay leader" who marries a bunch of other partners, that takes THAT MANY partners out of the game for other people to get whtn.

I support peoples right to polyamory...love/sleep with/smash all and as many as you want...but POLYGAMY as in government recognized unions doesn't help the country because its harder for individuals to create their own prosperity and build their own individual lives.

Look at places that have polygamy. You have A BUNCH of angry dudes who can't get ANYTHING out here cause the only ones who have any access to mates are those with proven resources or skill or etc.
So me not agreeing wit gay marriage make me dumb as fukking? Yea whatever homeboy....I said its a losing battle...the country is moving in the direction of acceptance and we cnt get left behind...same thing with marijuana...every year a new state approve it...anybody against that is fighting a losing battle...the whole polygamy thing I dnt care for it...if a woman willingly let her husband fukk other girls then she should live with the consequences...
 

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So me not agreeing wit gay marriage make me dumb as fukking? Yea whatever homeboy....I said its a losing battle...the country is moving in the direction of acceptance and we cnt get left behind...same thing with marijuana...every year a new state approve it...anybody against that is fighting a losing battle...the whole polygamy thing I dnt care for it...if a woman willingly let her husband fukk other girls then she should live with the consequences...
You're not even staying on topic.

Polygamy isn't about who she fukks, its about who shes legally connected to.
 
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