Peter Schiff, "The next Fed chairman will do the same terrible job as the current Fed chairman"

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what do folks think?

i agree with most of what schiff says, but i personally think, in theory, the entire Federal Reserve System should be brought back under total government control, private banking interests dont belong in public policy.

but in practice, with a govt as corrupt, incompetent, and subservient to corporatism as ours, im not sure that would do any good :snoop:




 

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what do folks think?

i agree with most of what schiff says, but i personally think, in theory, the entire Federal Reserve System should be brought back under total government control, private banking interests dont belong in public policy.

but in practice, with a govt as corrupt, incompetent, and subservient to corporatism as ours, im not sure that would do any good :snoop:





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what do folks think?

i agree with most of what schiff says, but i personally think, in theory, the entire Federal Reserve System should be brought back under total government control, private banking interests dont belong in public policy.

you don't want this. look at congress now, could you imagine them doing our monetary policy?
 

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you don't want this. look at congress now, could you imagine them doing our monetary policy?

government is not limited to congress.

government has the power to hire 9 of the best economists, lawyers, businessmen, environmentalists, etc, in the country, each of whom receive a 7-figure salary with top notch benefits to do one of the most important jobs in our country--dictating the monetary and fiscal policy of the US for the benefit of the COUNTRY, which means in the best interest of the PEOPLE. ideally the whole fukking government is supposed to work for the common good of the people but that shyt is obviously malfunctioning right now smh

which brings me back to my original point, corruption can kill anything. so until we the people implement a strategy to effectively reign in government and corporate corruption these convos about the "best system of governance" are irrelevant.
 

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government is not limited to congress.

government has the power to hire 9 of the best economists, lawyers, businessmen, environmentalists, etc, in the country, each of whom receive a 7-figure salary with top notch benefits to do one of the most important jobs in our country--dictating the monetary and fiscal policy of the US for the benefit of the COUNTRY, which means in the best interest of the PEOPLE. ideally the whole fukking government is supposed to work for the common good of the people but that shyt is obviously malfunctioning right now smh

which brings me back to my original point, corruption can kill anything. so until we the people implement a strategy to effectively reign in government and corporate corruption these convos about the "best system of governance" are irrelevant.
So what you're saying is you want to keep things the same way?

The Fed's board of governors are government positions appointed by the executive branch. :deadmanny:

You love speaking nonsense to power.
 

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So what you're saying is you want to keep things the same way?

The Fed's board of governors are government positions appointed by the executive branch. :deadmanny:

You love speaking nonsense to power.

the entire federal reserve system needs to be under govt, not just the board of governors.

and again, all of this is moot because our govt is acting in the private interest.
 

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government is not limited to congress.

government has the power to hire 9 of the best economists, lawyers, businessmen, environmentalists, etc, in the country, each of whom receive a 7-figure salary with top notch benefits to do one of the most important jobs in our country--dictating the monetary and fiscal policy of the US for the benefit of the COUNTRY, which means in the best interest of the PEOPLE. ideally the whole fukking government is supposed to work for the common good of the people but that shyt is obviously malfunctioning right now smh

which brings me back to my original point, corruption can kill anything. so until we the people implement a strategy to effectively reign in government and corporate corruption these convos about the "best system of governance" are irrelevant.

the fed hires the best economists.

I would argue that a lot of what ben bernanke has done is in the interest of main street, not wall street. These interest rates should encourage people and businesses to borrow and spend. There's not much else he can do. Congress and Obama not being able to agree on anything is harming the economy, not bernanke.

edit: economics is ridiculous, in no other applied math or science do you have the leading figures of the world taking completely opposite views.

edit 2: I got around to watching the video I agree we could stop some spending but the majority of our spending goes to military and intelligence. Does a politician have the balls to cut the military? no they don't and cutting government spending is not going to help the economy.

to his other point we have a solid currency. other countries use our currency, their central banks hoard US dollars.
 
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the qoran and bible are both against it.

edit: what if interest is how I make my living @Slaimon ?
You should find a different job that is halal (permissible in the sight of God). Check out www.Islamqa.com for answers to any questions you may have. I appreciate your questions and daps.
 

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I'm a banker so you can infer what religion/race I work with.

i feel like christians and muslims have a lot in common.
Christianity originally was Islam before it deformed into polytheism. Jesus (ilayhi wa salaam) was a Muslim. Please watch this video to see the evils of Interest and why Islam forbids Interest.
 

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Christianity originally was Islam before it deformed into polytheism. Jesus (ilayhi wa salaam) was a Muslim. Please watch this video to see the evils of Interest and why Islam forbids Interest.


I watched some of your video. do not act like muslims loan out at money with interest. christians and muslims both share the old testament.

islam originated later or at the same time as christianity. you share a lot of the same roots, as evidenced by your first books.

youre both abrahamic religions.
 
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the fed hires the best economists.

thats questionable.

there are a lot economists/bankers who currently work for the fed who have previous connections to private banking, which in itself is not a bad thing because that kind of experience can be valuable in the position. but in our current climate with corporate control over the government at an all time high, and personnel movement between the public and private sector one of the big driving forces of that, it makes me skeptical of hiring economists who are fresh off a gig as a president of a private bank because it makes me question whether there will be a conflict of interest. and i think im justified in that question because the BEHAVIOR of the Fed leads me to believe they are dictating policy in the best interest of the banks and corps and NOT in the interest of ALL people.


I would argue that a lot of what ben bernanke has done is in the interest of main street, not wall street. These interest rates should encourage people and businesses to borrow and spend. There's not much else he can do. Congress and Obama not being able to agree on anything is harming the economy, not bernanke.

i agree that fiscal policy makers also play a huge role in this fiasco. but i totally disagree with the bold. bernake using the mechanisms of the fed to funnel god knows how much money to god knows who is not benefitting main street.

did you see the video where some congressman was pressing him about who were the specific recipients of the 700B bailout cash and bernake wouldnt answer him straight. greenspan used to do the same thing, put on a smoke and mirror show with his "Fed Speak" to get politicians off his back.

but thats our money brother, taxpayer money. and we hire congress to track our taxpayer money. and this dude bernake, in violation of Fed statues mind you, does not directly answer questions about who we gave that bailout money to? cmon sun, thats definitely not in our best interest.

edit: economics is ridiculous, in no other applied math or science do you have the leading figures of the world taking completely opposite views.

because human corruption corrupts the scientific aspect. you cant account for human greed in a theoretical model.

edit 2: I got around to watching the video I agree we could stop some spending but the majority of our spending goes to military and intelligence. Does a politician have the balls to cut the military? no they don't and cutting government spending is not going to help the economy.

if our politicians dont serve us, then we need new politicians.

to his other point we have a solid currency. other countries use our currency, their central banks hoard US dollars.

:stopitslime: be serious

we have a "good currency" compared to other currencies because a lot of other currencies are shytty. but dont act for one second like the fundamentals of the dollar are sound and we are not in a slow, downward spiral to economic mediocrity.
 

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:stopitslime: be serious

we have a "good currency" compared to other currencies because a lot of other currencies are shytty. but dont act for one second like the fundamentals of the dollar are sound and we are not in a slow, downward spiral to economic mediocrity.
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