Pat Robertson: "I Don't Think There's Any Sin Associated With Transgenderism"

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Twilight zone shyt... :leon: Video in link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...sgender_n_3672244.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Pat Robertson has said a lot of shocking things, but his latest comment about the transgender community might be the most surprising yet.

The 83-year-old televangelist sat down on Sunday for the "Bring It Online" advice portion of his Christian Broadcasting Network show, "The 700 Club." A viewer named David wrote in asking how he should refer to two transgender females who work in his office and have legally changed their genders. Instead of criticizing the trans individuals, Robertson approached the situation in a seemingly level-headed manner.

"I think there are men who are in a woman's body," he said. "It's very rare. But it's true -- or women that are in men's bodies -- and that they want a sex change. That is a very permanent thing, believe me, when you have certain body parts amputated and when you have shot up with various kinds of hormones. It's a radical procedure. I don't think there's any sin associated with that. I don't condemn somebody for doing that."

He went on to say he would "question the validity" of someone who just says, "Well I'm really a woman" because you "don't count somebody as female unless they really are, or male unless they really are."

When his co-host said the viewer doesn't know the intentions or medical history of his co-workers, Robertson rebutted, "It's not for you to decide or to judge."

The remarks from Robertson -- who has ranted about gays, Muslims and demons in Goodwill sweaters -- were applauded by various blogs.

ThinkProgress called his statement a "refreshing change of pace." Back 2 Stonewall joked that the comments might push anti-gay American Family Association host Bryan Fischer even "deeper into the end of the insanity pool." America Blog called it a "huge deal."

"Robertson’s statement is, at its core, sympathetic," wrote America Blog's John Aravosis. "And regardless of how flawed the rest of his quote is ... these are the kind of positive statements that help a movement move forward, especially one that is less known to the public than, for example, being gay. Say what you will about Robertson, but this quote is very helpful."
 

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Wait for the hate to come in.

I don't know of any scripture that is explicity anti-transgenderism, and I'd be genuinely interested to see some.

As our perceptions of sexuality and gender become grayer and grayer, it'll be interesting to see people retroactively apply scripture in a strict manner to paradigms that are culturally and even scientifically new in origin.
 

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Wait for the hate to come in.

I don't know of any scripture that is explicity anti-transgenderism, and I'd be genuinely interested to see some.

As our perceptions of sexuality and gender become grayer and grayer, it'll be interesting to see people retroactively apply scripture in a strict manner to paradigms that are culturally and even scientifically new in origin.

Expected a fakkit like you to say something like that.

Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
 

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That edict doesn't apply to transgenders unless you think being born in a male or female body means your identity is also male or female, and unchanging, on top of that. The Bible doesn't say anything about that. The only people it applies to for sure are crossdressers, which aren't the same as transgenders.
 

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That edict doesn't apply to transgenders unless you think being born in a male or female body means your identity is also male or female, and unchanging, on top of that. The Bible doesn't say anything about that. The only people it applies to for sure are crossdressers, which aren't the same as transgenders.

If you change your sex to be something else, then you're going to wear the opposite sex's clothes. That kind of goes without saying...but either way, only a freak would try to change their sex anyway. A disgusting freak.
 
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homosexuality is almost a religion now so christianity is trying to merge with it...mo money mo money mo money...

the facade is starting to peel off this western religion...no one should be surprised by this...religious leaders alter or interpret scripture arbitrarily to effectively command and control believers...christians have always condoned and practiced homosexuality while also condemning it...
 

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This is the insanity of religion. Even someone like Pat Robertson who has made disgusting statements in the past, can show compassion to other people when doing so doesn't interfere with explicit or implied instructions from his book of fables.

Put down their religious texts and they can actually be compassionate human beings.
 

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Nothing wrong with being trans....they're some of the most cool people on the planet. A new a girl once....who's a guy now. Was a great person.
 

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Put down their religious texts and they can actually be compassionate human beings.
lol, so they can't possibly be religious and compassionate human beings at the same time?? :wow:... damn where the hell did all these donations, charitable groups, organizations for women and children, and civil rights leaders come from then???
 

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lol, so they can't possibly be religious and compassionate human beings at the same time?? :wow:... damn where the hell did all these donations, charitable groups, organizations for women and children, and civil rights leaders come from then???

I said "when doing so doesn't interfere with explicit or implied instructions from his book of fables"

meaning they allow themselves to process situations as human beings not necessarily as christians or muslims
 

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people are furious

When you are out of step with the Pope and Robertson it shows you sick you actually are. Christians in America are sick people.
 

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all these atheist who act as if they know the word kill me with their flawed logic & understanding of it :russ:
I literally said "I dont know" :dead:

Ive never pretended to be an expert on Abrahamic faiths, I just have found them and their practitioners be wanting
 
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