One prosecutor's view of a better justice system

[Professor Emeritus]

Obviously the political pendulum has swung the other way again and people don't want to hear this message in 2024....but doesn't make it any less true. Prosecutors are the most powerful people in the justice system, and what constitutes socially beneficial behavior for them isn't the same as the kneejerk reactionary policy.

 

[re'up]

Foss is/was acquitted for rape charges recently. Semi recently in Manhattan.

Not sure what I think regarding guilty or innocent, but a very ironic twist.

Manhattan Jury Clears Ex-Prosecutor of Rape and Assault Charges

Adam Foss, a prominent criminal justice reform advocate, had been accused of assaulting a woman in a Midtown hotel room in 2017.

www.nytimes.com

used the same lawyer as Jonathan Majors.

which again is ironically probably why Majors picked her

 

[mc_brew]

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

the criminal justice system was never really intended to ensure public safety but instead used to facilitate legalized slavery...... there are billions of dollars being made off the backs of black bodies..... none of this will ever change without a fight.....

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Obviously the political pendulum has swung the other way again and people don't want to hear this message in 2024....but doesn't make it any less true. Prosecutors are the most powerful people in the justice system, and what constitutes socially beneficial behavior for them isn't the same as the kneejerk reactionary policy.

I'm glad Christopher did all that. But how many brehs or crehs, especially brehs would have done what Christopher had done?

But I agree that alot of crimes can be prevented before they start.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Foss is/was acquitted for rape charges recently. Semi recently in Manhattan.

Not sure what I think regarding guilty or innocent, but a very ironic twist.

Manhattan Jury Clears Ex-Prosecutor of Rape and Assault Charges

Adam Foss, a prominent criminal justice reform advocate, had been accused of assaulting a woman in a Midtown hotel room in 2017.

www.nytimes.com

used the same lawyer as Jonathan Majors.

Not sure what that has to do with the OP at all. From the articles I read, it looks like a bs case that never even should have been taken to trial and the jury agreed. Proves his point that prosecutorial discretion matters. He still shouldn't have been messing around on his wife, but there isn't any evidence that he committed any crime.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm glad Christopher did all that. But how many brehs or crehs, especially brehs would have done what Christopher had done?

But I agree that alot of crimes can be prevented before they start.

In my experience, you aren't going to expect some kid in trouble with the law to turn around and get a college degree and become a bank manager. But the point isn't capturing the unicorns. The point is that Christopher was MORE likely to recommit if he was stuck into the system and had his future fukked up. People without hope become criminals. By helping him atone for his crimes outside of the prison system and then giving him guidance on how to move forward, the prosecutor drastically reduced the chances that Christopher would recommit.

Maybe the more typical story is that people like Christopher end up getting factory jobs and occasionally committing petty crimes. But that's far better than him coming out of a 5-year stint in prison with 5 years of influence from deviants and no hope from the future, then becoming a full-time criminal willing to do anything.

 

[mastermind]

Not sure what that has to do with the OP at all

It’s what he does. He likes to show people he is well read and in a higher social class. It’s a stunting flex that appeals only to people like Truman Capote. I don’t get it, lol


As for the video. The answer is yes it needs changing because it doesn’t work.

 

[re'up]

I am not sure how it's not relevant, but I truly don't want to engage in pettniness. Or that if it was someone else, there'd be the idea he must have been truly innocent. I have no idea, but to claim it's not worthy of even mentioning....I really just think it's interesting. I don't have an an agenda. and another irony is I come here not to "flex" but because there is NO ONE who has even heard of this guy that I know. I'm here to have parts of convos that aren't really available to me.

But, do you ever notice that I never insult you or anyone here?

 

[mastermind]

It wasn’t relevant, bro. Especially since he was acquitted. The point was to discuss how prosecutors can change the criminal justice system by not taking people
over the coals for bullshyt cases. Imprisonment actually declined in the US over the last decade because prosecutors stopped throwing people in jail for petty crimes and we ended cash bail for non serious misdemeanor.

NEW DATA: After Almost Ten Years of Decline U.S. Prison Population Grew in 2022 – The Sentencing Project

www.sentencingproject.org

Imprisonment began rising in 2022 because of the fake crime wave hysteria that was promoted in high minded papers like The NY Times and on Sinclair owned TV stations.

And yes, you do like to share high society anecdotes in damn near every post in this sub forum as a weird flex. You live in a higher social class, no one cares but you lol—and me because I sees what you doing.

You threw out some bullshyt in some weird attempt to discredit the argument.