Old heads, back in 97 when you heard "Long Kiss Goodnight" for the first time...

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Nope, I was only 11

Same I was 14...so I just thought it was a dope song on a dope album.

Also people gotta remember there was no Twitter or ig or vlad or real time news that would easily connect the dots for you. You had to read Vibe and the Source or watch MTV news or follow the artist individual interviews. At 14, I wasnt doing all that...I was chasing girls, hooping, and listening to music.

Plus Big was blatant was Pac was on hit em up or Nas was on ether...where they just said the person's name.
 

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That song let mem know nikkas couldnt fukk with big....

Uh, I'm flamin' gats, aimin' at, these fukkin'
Maniacs put my name in raps, what part the
Game is that? Like they hustle backwards
I smoke backwoods, and Duchies
You can't touch me
Try to rush me
Slugs go, touchy-touchy
Ya bleedin' lovely, wit'chyo, spirit above me
Or beneath me, ya whole life ya live sneaky
Now ya rest eternally, sleepy, ya burn when ya creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be

My nine flies, baptize, rap guys
Wit the holy ghost
I put holes in most, you hold ya toast shakey
 

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Damn my apologies for saying that …. I was drinking last night …. I forgot I even typed that smh

I was 11ish also and a lot of shyt I bumped at that age I didn’t grasp it until years later

I was having this convo last week with someone. A LOT of rap songs I knew verbatim from like age 9 to 16....I didnt know what the fukk they were talking about. I knew the words..but at times that was it.

From certain regional slang to cultural references I was too young to understand. It's a trip to go back and listen with adult knowledgeable ears now.

Like I could recite fake thug no love, you catch a slug, cb4 gusto, your luck tho.......but I didnt watch cb4 until years later so I ain't know what the fukk Nas was talking about lol, it just sound dope.

Or when cube saying standing looking out the window like Malcolm. I heard that at 9...I no idea of the iconic photo of Malcolm guarding his home with a rifle. I just knew that shyt was provactive lol.
 

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2Pac a coward and a p*ssy for not getting at the nikkas who REALLY set him up and shot him.

The p*ssy nikka dissin stretch after he died, even tho multiple Ny street nikkas told him Stretch, Biggie nor Puff had anything to do with his death is a testament to how cowardly and snakish he was. :yeshrug:
He told a real live tail about a snitch named Hatian Jack. And was coming for Jimmy Henchmen. Unfortunately Orlando and the Feds got him first :sadcam:

But we still need one of these crazed Pac stans to run up on them nikkaz like they ran up on Chino XL
 

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As hard as Pac went at Big, Pac deserves being dissed in the grave

All the more reason for having said something whilst he was still stomping round this realm, yes? Instead he penned this as a response:



The way the story has been whitewashed from how it was back then to those who witnessed it happening is crazy because it makes Pac seem like a deranged lunatic that was constantly mashing on the Bad Boy Boys Choir as they were soliciting donations to build a new roof on the orphanage because he was direct and they were on some subliminals after he's dead ish.

Like I said I'm not interested in the stannery as I like BIGs work as an artist but as a person his moves were questionable and you can see many cases where Pac had a legit beef that he parlayed into a marketing angle before circling back to go at his real targets. I will say though that I think a lot of what BIG said was coached or directed by other real players behind the scenes who used him as a mouthpiece to express their intent towards Pac and his disrespect.

Unlike him he knew he was a rapper talking about gangsta things whereas ol picklehead definitely got caught up in the mix of living his lyrics. Either way we, as a collective, were cheated out of greatness and the artform has never been the same since.
 

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The GOAT adlib shyt talk.

My Downfall>>>>
And I didnt see it as a Diss at 14 until a bit later on cause I didnt see that or any song on that album as a DR Diss Fest,nevermind Nas,Jeru etc

I loved that 2nd Half of Disc 2(starting with Sky's The Limit)
 

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biggie used his last kiss lyrics on his last wakeup show freestyle in cali and it was full of 2Pac subliminals that the wolves listening picked up on...'going back to cali' was a single praising cali but then came out these dark lyrics responding to 2Pac...it was a wrap and they killed him after that :francis:


...but yeah, 2Pac was backed in a corner as well signed to suge and he had to diss Biggie to sell records fast to get out his deal...people to this day said that money was the motivator behind Pac dying because he was going to make euthanasia records for up and coming artists and the big corporations were trying to take over and corner the market with just gangsta rap...and it was not because of gangland beef or revenge, etc...record companies to this day still promote ignorant gangsta rap and silo away intelligent lyrics with "the meeting" "The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation"
 
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Same I was 14...so I just thought it was a dope song on a dope album.

Also people gotta remember there was no Twitter or ig or vlad or real time news that would easily connect the dots for you. You had to read Vibe and the Source or watch MTV news or follow the artist individual interviews. At 14, I wasnt doing all that...I was chasing girls, hooping, and listening to music.

Plus Big was blatant was Pac was on hit em up or Nas was on ether...where they just said the person's name.

Exactly
 
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