Official Syrian Conflict Thread

[FAH1223]

If there an offensive it will be in the remaining western Aleppo Countryside,Latakia, and Hama. For western Aleppo thay is the Anadan Plains,Khan Touman, and Khan al Assal. These are areas the rebels still control
But have heavily fortified because the topography favors the defenders. And also the Hama and Latakia areas well maybe taken. Idlib proper will probably left alone.

Looks like the Israelis may have shot themselves in the foot

 

[88m3]

Looks like the Israelis may have shot themselves in the foot

The dead children on Russian downed MH117 love gallows humor.

 

[ZoeGod]

Looks like the Israelis may have shot themselves in the foot

Israel really got cocky and now shyt is getting real for them. Putin is playing chess. There is levels to this shyt. In the on hand the Russian jet that was shot down had 15 dead plus the plane is not replaceable as they don’t much of the IL-20 so they are pissed. Secondly the S-300 covers much of Lebanon and Northern Israel. What this means it will make air raids much more difficult for the IDF. They will probably have to go around Jordan.

The biggest thing is that this gives Hezbollah and air shield. Which means if there is another Israel and Hezbollah war Israeli AirPower will be limited. Plus if there is another air raid the Syrian with the S-300 can shoot down IDF Jets in Lebanon. If that happens and the pilot is captured shyt could escalate to war. Also Washington is pissed because if the F-16,F-15,F-22 s shot down by the S-300 it will show a vunerablity to those jets.

It will be a sales disaster as well as a massive hit against the confidence of Western air forces. Confirming in the worst possible way the fears already expressed by USAF Generals. Its difficult to envisage any pilot volunteering to become the first to try to beat a S-300 missile!

Israel, quite understandably works to try to minimise the risk of losing an aircraft, this has now become more difficult as it is unlikely that the Syrians will worry about where within the range of their S-300 that they try to hit any IAF plane that has attacked them with a standoff device. Now, as an added complexity, the IAF is likely to be under pressure from the US not to give the S-300 any chance to become proven in battle.

 

[FAH1223]

Israel really got cocky and now shyt is getting real for them. Putin is playing chess. There is levels to this shyt. In the on hand the Russian jet that was shot down had 15 dead plus the plane is not replaceable as they don’t much of the IL-20 so they are pissed. Secondly the S-300 covers much of Lebanon and Northern Israel. What this means it will make air raids much more difficult for the IDF. They will probably have to go around Jordan.

The biggest thing is that this gives Hezbollah and air shield. Which means if there is another Israel and Hezbollah war Israeli AirPower will be limited. Plus if there is another air raid the Syrian with the S-300 can shoot down IDF Jets in Lebanon. If that happens and the pilot is captured shyt could escalate to war. Also Washington is pissed because if the F-16,F-15,F-22 s shot down by the S-300 it will show a vunerablity to those jets.

It will be a sales disaster as well as a massive hit against the confidence of Western air forces. Confirming in the worst possible way the fears already expressed by USAF Generals. Its difficult to envisage any pilot volunteering to become the first to try to beat a S-300 missile!

Israel, quite understandably works to try to minimise the risk of losing an aircraft, this has now become more difficult as it is unlikely that the Syrians will worry about where within the range of their S-300 that they try to hit any IAF plane that has attacked them with a standoff device. Now, as an added complexity, the IAF is likely to be under pressure from the US not to give the S-300 any chance to become proven in battle.

Israelis also had F-16s shot by S-200 systems and Pantasir

 

[FAH1223]

 

[thatrapsfan]

Israel really got cocky and now shyt is getting real for them. Putin is playing chess. There is levels to this shyt. In the on hand the Russian jet that was shot down had 15 dead plus the plane is not replaceable as they don’t much of the IL-20 so they are pissed. Secondly the S-300 covers much of Lebanon and Northern Israel. What this means it will make air raids much more difficult for the IDF. They will probably have to go around Jordan.

The biggest thing is that this gives Hezbollah and air shield. Which means if there is another Israel and Hezbollah war Israeli AirPower will be limited. Plus if there is another air raid the Syrian with the S-300 can shoot down IDF Jets in Lebanon. If that happens and the pilot is captured shyt could escalate to war. Also Washington is pissed because if the F-16,F-15,F-22 s shot down by the S-300 it will show a vunerablity to those jets.

It will be a sales disaster as well as a massive hit against the confidence of Western air forces. Confirming in the worst possible way the fears already expressed by USAF Generals. Its difficult to envisage any pilot volunteering to become the first to try to beat a S-300 missile!

Israel, quite understandably works to try to minimise the risk of losing an aircraft, this has now become more difficult as it is unlikely that the Syrians will worry about where within the range of their S-300 that they try to hit any IAF plane that has attacked them with a standoff device. Now, as an added complexity, the IAF is likely to be under pressure from the US not to give the S-300 any chance to become proven in battle.

This is a reactive move though, no? Chess suggests there was an element of foresight behind this.

I'd take the Syrian narrative about what percipitated the downing of the plane with a huge grain of salt. As Russia cannot punish the same ally theyre preserving, and cannot directly retaliate against the Israelis, this seems like one of their only options. Putin is an autocrat, but still has a constituency that was expecting some sort of response. I am highly skeptical this will spell the end of Russian and Israeli deconfliction on the latter's air raids, or the end of Israel's air raids in Syria.

 

[Arithmetic]

 

[FAH1223]

 

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[88m3]

The president is a traitor.

 

[Triipe]

ISIS Defeated, and a somewhat of a stable leader (Assad) in power. Now is a good a time as any to leave syria. Turkey still war hungry, because Assad protects the kurds (christian minority in syria/turkey)


whole situation is odd, but hopefully non interventionist sentiments prevail

 

[thatrapsfan]

ISIS Defeated, and a somewhat of a stable leader (Assad) in power. Now is a good a time as any to leave syria. Turkey still war hungry, because Assad protects the kurds (christian minority in syria/turkey)


whole situation is odd, but hopefully non interventionist sentiments prevail

 

[thatrapsfan]

To be fair to Trump, his policy decision is line with what the Rose Emoji left wants

 

[Duppy]

ISIS Defeated, and a somewhat of a stable leader (Assad) in power. Now is a good a time as any to leave syria. Turkey still war hungry, because Assad protects the kurds (christian minority in syria/turkey)

Kurds aren't majority Christian They're majority Sunni and live in Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Iran.