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Futuristic Eskimo said:
The US is not a position to dictate terms in Syria now after passing up the opportunity in 2011 / 2012. With a complete fool in charge incapable of strategic thought and flip-flopping his policy in Syria depending on the day's headlines, as well as a committed Russian presence in the country, the downside risk of escalation is probably too high to reverse course and push for full regime change now.

Unfortunately, the best course of action is to let it be for now and learn from mistakes going forward. It's a shame because Assad is a monster.
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Then other countries need to pull their damn weight. They sit on their damn hands hoping the U.S. does something, and then bytch when the do, while still taking money from this country.
 
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Futuristic Eskimo said:
The US is not a position to dictate terms in Syria now after passing up the opportunity in 2011 / 2012. With a complete fool in charge incapable of strategic thought and flip-flopping his policy in Syria depending on the day's headlines, as well as a committed Russian presence in the country, the downside risk of escalation is probably too high to reverse course and push for full regime change now.

Unfortunately, the best course of action is to let it be for now and learn from mistakes going forward. It's a shame because Assad is a monster.
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What does a post-assad Syria look like? Who is the front runner to take over? I'm asking genuinely because I feel ignorant of this. The only thing I am aware of is various countries dipping their hands in the pie and funding a variety of different discontiguous rebel and government forces to push forward their own goals.
 
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Behelit said:
What does a post-assad Syria look like? Who is the front runner to take over? I'm asking genuinely because I feel ignorant of this. The only thing I am aware of is various countries dipping their hands in the pie and funding a variety of different discontiguous rebel and government forces to push forward their own goals.

If its true Israel is behind the strikes yesterday, is there any one who genuinely believe it was done in response to a gas attack and that Israel is worried about the human rights of Syrian civilians?
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How a post-Assad Syria would've looked like would have been a function of the confluence of events that led to him being tossed out. I imagine, hypothetically, that the outcome of that would have been much different in 2012 than it would have been in 2015+. At this point, it is not a realistic hypothetical so its almost pointless to speculate about frontrunner. The fragmentation of the country into various ethnically-based enclaves with the Russians keeping a dominate position near Tartus to keep their base is what would probably result now if the government in Damascus were to collapse.

I don't think anyone is speculating that the IDF hit the base in Syria because of the gas attack. Seems as though analysts are saying that the Iranians have been launching drone operations from that base towards the Israeli border so they took it out in advance of any upcoming US strike. I might be mistaken on this specific point, though, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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BucciMane said:
These pieces of shyt need to be dealt with, and not with bullshyt words, sanctions, or inspections. They need to be taken off this planet. Enough of these innocent people being killed with chemical weapons. Going after and killing fukking children?! People bytch about the U.S. all the time, but this is the type of shyt that reminds you how damn lucky we are to live here.
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Unless the US and EU are ready to stand in the aftermath as defacto new government. It's just going to turn into another Middle East quagmire with more people getting raped or fleeing violence of factions trying to vie for control.
 
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Futuristic Eskimo said:
How a post-Assad Syria would've looked like would have been a function of the confluence of events that led to him being tossed out. I imagine, hypothetically, that the outcome of that would have been much different in 2012 than it would have been in 2015+. At this point, it is not a realistic hypothetical so its almost pointless to speculate about frontrunner. The fragmentation of the country into various ethnically-based enclaves with the Russians keeping a dominate position near Tartus to keep their base is what would probably result now if the government in Damascus were to collapse.

I don't think anyone is speculating that the IDF hit the base in Syria because of the gas attack. Seems as though analysts are saying that the Iranians have been launching drone operations from that base towards the Israeli border so they took it out in advance of any upcoming US strike. I might be mistaken on this specific point, though, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Israelis had an F16 shot down by the Syrians S-200s back in February when they retaliated for the drone going from T4 through the Golan. This seemed to be a retaliation.
 
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