Official Lincoln Trailer [Starring Daniel Day-Lewis]

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Was Abraham Lincoln the first progressive president in history?

Some proponents would argue his decision to regulate a booming slavery economy by proposing to cease the markets expansion to the western states and being the first to implement progressive tax rate support that idea.

The Constitution prohibited the government from ending slavery within the states and many progressives feel that the Constitution limited the power Of government to be better adaptive and felt the need for government to increase its power in order to evolve and and better serve the needs of the U.S.

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During the civil war with the southern states, he freed the slaves to rub it in.

He didn't do it because it was the right thing.
 

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I'm glad he freed the slaves, but he gets no props from me. If the movie is accurately portrayed, you'll understand why.

Idunno...it seems he did truly despise the idea of slavery or at least the way slavery was established in America at the time.

This is a letter he wrote to his friend Joshua Speed who was a slave owner before his presidency.

You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. ... I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio, there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continued torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union. . . .


. . . How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty— to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be take pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy
 

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JUSE_HEDD said:
Idunno...it seems he did truly despise the idea of slavery or at least the way slavery was established in America at the time.

Lincoln freed the slaves to consolidate his power and get slaves to fight for the Union rather than the Confederacy and to decrease their ability to fight back. Matter of fact, he wanted all 'negroes' out of the country and didn't consider them 'people'. He was a racist, scumbag, politician and didn't give a damn about freeing the slaves because it was 'right'.
 

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Lincoln freed the slaves to consolidate his power and get slaves to fight for the Union rather than the Confederacy and to decrease their ability to fight back. Matter of fact, he wanted all 'negroes' out of the country and didn't consider them 'people'. He was a racist, scumbag, politician and didn't give a damn about freeing the slaves because it was 'right'.

He may have been a racist (believing in the superiority of the white race) but he was anti-slavery even if he concealed it for a long time in order to be elected.
 

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i think there was a very strong anti slavery argument based on economic (slaves undercutting white workers) and legal (a constitution based on freedom) matters that would make a white person anti slavery AND racist, i dont think those are contradictory, i think lincoln and jefferson represented that

it had nothing really to do with giving a fuk about black people or equality but lincoln was definitely very anti slavery, he made that very clear that is why the southern states seceded the moment he took office but he was also a racist
 

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False, while there were too few - he's there's still plenty of examples of white folk who weren't racist.

'How come people never talk about John Brown' - Langston Hughes

The man may have been a racist, whatever...but he not a racist of the 20th century that I know all too well.
 
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