Obama to outline US climate plan on Tuesday

[No1]

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is preparing to unveil his long-awaited national plan to combat climate change in a major speech, he announced on Saturday.

"There's no single step that can reverse the effects of climate change," Obama said in an online video released by the White House. "But when it comes to the world we leave our children, we owe it to them to do what we can."

People consulting with White House officials on Obama's plan, to be unveiled Tuesday at Georgetown University, say they expect him to put forth regulations on heat-trapping gases emitted by existing coal-fired power plans. They were not authorized to disclose details about the plan ahead of the announcement and requested anonymity.

Environmental groups have been pleading with Obama to take that step, but the administration has said it's focused first on controls on new power plants. The Environmental Protection Agency, using its authority under the Clean Air Act, has already proposed controls on new plants, but the rules have been delayed — to the chagrin of states and environmental groups threatening to sue over the delays.

An administration official said last week that Obama was still weighing whether to include existing plants in the climate plan. The official wasn't authorized to comment by name and requested anonymity.

The White House wouldn't disclose any details Saturday about what steps Obama may call for. But his senior energy and climate adviser, Heather Zichal, said last week that controls on greenhouse gas emissions from power plants would be a major focus. She also said the plan would boost energy efficiency of appliances and buildings, plus expand renewable energy.

Putting a positive spin on a contentious partisan issue, Obama said the U.S. is uniquely poised to deal with the serious challenges posed by climate change. He said American scientists and engineers would have to design new fuels and energy sources, and workers will have to adapt to a clean energy economy.

"We'll need all of us, as citizens, to do our part to preserve God's creation for future generations," Obama said.

Environmental groups have for months been pushing Obama to make good on a threat he issued to lawmakers in February in his State of the Union address: "If Congress won't act soon to protect future generations, I will." Obama's move to take the matter into his own hands appears to reflect a growing consensus that opposition in Congress is too powerful for any meaningful, sweeping climate legislation to pass anytime soon.

"They shouldn't wait for Congress to act, because they'll be out of office by the time that Congress gets its act together," Rep. Henry Waxman, the top Democrat on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said in an interview.

Environmental groups applauded the announcement that Obama was finally releasing a plan for executive action, but made clear they want to see firm proposals — including controls for existing power plants.

"Combating climate change means curbing carbon pollution — for the first time ever — from the biggest single source of such dangerous gases: our coal-fired power plants," said Frances Beinecke, president of the National Resources Defense Council. "We stand ready to help President Obama in every way we can."

Another key issue hanging over the announcement — but unlikely to be mentioned on Tuesday — is Keystone XL, a pipeline that would carry oil extracted from tar sands in western Canada to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast. A concerted campaign by environmental activists to persuade Obama to nix the pipeline appears to be an uphill battle. The White House insists the State Department is making the decision independently.

Obama's speech on Tuesday will come the day before he leaves for a weeklong trip to three African nations.

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[acri1]

Probable outcome:

• 60% chance that Obama folds the instant Republicans start bytching about it
  
  
• 39.9% chance that Obama doesn't fold on it, but Congress blocks anything meaningful from passing anyway
  
  

Don't you just love US politics?

 

[No1]

Probable outcome:

• 60% chance that Obama folds the instant Republicans start bytching about it
  
  
• 39.9% chance that Obama doesn't fold on it, but Congress blocks anything meaningful from passing anyway
  
  

Don't you just love US politics?

Executive order.

 

[IGSaint12]

Probable outcome:

• 60% chance that Obama folds the instant Republicans start bytching about it
  
  
• 39.9% chance that Obama doesn't fold on it, but Congress blocks anything meaningful from passing anyway
  
  

Don't you just love US politics?

It's an executive order which means republicans can't do shyt about it. What do you have to say now?

 

[acri1]

Executive order.

It's an executive order which means republicans can't do shyt about it. What do you have to say now?

If he actually does this, and the orders are meaningful, I'll be impressed.

But at this point I'm not optimistic. Don't think that the GOP won't try to do anything about it. There's also the fact that Obama has issued fewer executive orders than most presidents in recent history. And even if he does issue orders on global warming, I'm not sure he can do too much (on climate change) that's actually useful w/o cooperation from Congress. We'll see tho.

As a matter of fact, I think he passed a bunch of gun control related executive orders that were basically useless.

 

[No1]

If he actually does this, and the orders are meaningful, I'll be impressed.

But at this point I'm not optimistic. Don't think that the GOP won't try to do anything about it. There's also the fact that Obama has issued fewer executive orders than most presidents in recent history. And even if he does issue orders on global warming, I'm not sure he can do too much (on climate change) that's actually useful w/o cooperation from Congress. We'll see tho.

As a matter of fact, I think he passed a bunch of gun control related executive orders that were basically useless.

The gun control executive orders weren't useless, but people need to understand the limitations of executive orders. The reason I said executive orders here is because the article specifically mentions executive orders only so I was confused as to why you weren't talking in that context only. With that said, I'm not optimistic.

 

[Serious]

Climate change isn't real

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204394804577012014136900828.html

 

[Serious]

No troll, but was there ever a thread on this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/s...ses-long-feared-milestone.html?pagewanted=all

 

[acri1]

No troll, but was there ever a thread on this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/s...ses-long-feared-milestone.html?pagewanted=all

 

[Serious]

tough luck bro try getting people to care....


fukked up thing is reversing these changes requires a group effort, which might actually create jobs and restimulate the economy

at trying get people to buy more gas efficent cars, use less electricity, take public transportation, etc....


We're fukked, might as well go out Yolo

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhXziP7IP0c[/ame]

 

[IGSaint12]

they'll be insignificant executive orders that wouldn't move the needle but are clearly a sop to emoprogs to pacify them of their bloodlust over snowden,
better yet, he'll fold on his own executive order, and it would'nt een come as a surprise neither

He has always said he was going to do something about climate change, I guess you could tie it to snowden if you are cynical. And it's better to do something than nothing at all or because republicans would never gone down with any new climate regulations at all.

 

[AV Dicey]

He has always said he was going to do something about climate change, I guess you could tie it to snowden if you are cynical. And it's better to do something than nothing at all or because republicans would never gone down with any new climate regulations at all.

based on precedent, there is actually little evidence of an Obama executive order that's been impactful, other than the pseudo dream act, which was an election ploy. The truth is Obama got burnt on the healthcare/2010 midterms fiasco and he's been cautious ever since.
His goal is to not screw up his legacy...ask Dan Pfieffer.

 

[Shogun]

tough luck bro try getting people to care....


fukked up thing is reversing these changes requires a group effort, which might actually create jobs and restimulate the economy

at trying get people to buy more gas efficent cars, use less electricity, take public transportation, etc....


We're fukked, might as well go out Yolo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhXziP7IP0c

I'm all for saving the environment, but i aint bout to turn off this AC