NYT: Kenyan/Ugandan politicians, Saudi royals are profiting from enslaving 500k African women

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No african country or organizd people organized to fight to help our ancestors in the US to get out of slavery for hundreds of years. I doubt these women's countries are going to do anything to try to help them. At least they know the risk when they go over there.
 

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What is the formal unemployment rate in the country, and across the different counties?

If people are out of work in their home countries, they will take risks to migrate where there the jobs are.
Haitian sugar cane workers have notoriously been mistreated across the decades in D.R. Without legal paths of migration/employment elsewhere, those people were left with no choice than to go there.

Kenya and other African countries have expanded employment contract opportunities for different level of skilled work


But I'd imagine that there are always domestic jobs available for women without formal education or skills that would transfer. Some outside of the Arab world, but many more inside that region.
there has always been local domestic jobs.

these people want a get rich quick scheme and they are willing to risk slavery.
 

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Haiti situation is not like Kenya at all.

there's no reason you can give to go be a slave willingly then cry about it.
I specifically asked about unemployment rates, nationally and across the disticts.

And I asked what better option do the women have for formal employment? At home, in neighboring countres, or overseas?

I hate seeing Black people being murdered and exploited, with no recourse. But my family being where we are from, I understand the push factors.
The fact that reports of domestic workers being killed/violated in that region , surface continually, and people continue to sign up for those jobs , highlights how limited their options are.
 

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I specifically asked about unemployment rates, nationally and across the disticts.

And I asked what better option do the women have for formal employment? At home, in neighboring countres, or overseas?

I hate seeing Black people being murdered and exploited, with no recourse. But my family being where we are from, I understand the push factors.
The fact that reports of domestic workers being killed/violated in that region , surface continually, and people continue to sign up for those jobs , highlights how limited their options are.
if your options include slavery you are a lost cause. i don't care about what the unemployment rate is. it says right in the article why people go. they are sold the dream that they will get rich quicker than local jobs. 2 years is all they need according to the lies. so they ignore the dead bodies coming back home and the testimonials/warnings

you have good intentions but on this topic we can't agree. there's no excuses for putting yourself there. 0
 

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No african country or organizd people organized to fight to help our ancestors in the US to get out of slavery for hundreds of years. I doubt these women's countries are going to do anything to try to help them. At least they know the risk when they go over there.
the countries in this story have nothing to do with Western slavery. stop projecting. East Africa has been fighting Arab slavery long before the transatlantic trade. which is why it's a tragedy for some from there to still willingly take that journey today. Arabs traditionally predated on this same area. Kenya and Uganda didn't exist when your ancestors were taken and they didn't come from there. they both organized and fought their british colonizers to be free today. they have a different struggle from yours. don't know how you established they had the time and resources to help your ancestors when they didn't exist until the 60's and we are here talking about what people are doing today there still to survive.

you over here tryna start some lame beef. get some hobbies
 
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so they rolling the dice on slavery

what we supposed to be mad about then? let them take their chances if it's worth the risk

yes sexual slavery is very much a part of the culture of maid service there. which is why I said these women can just be prostitutes at home.

filipinas also get caught up in this scam circle a lot. there was a famous story of kenyans and filipinas being held captive by arabs who brought them to America

Arabs are very upfront about how they see us. whores and slaves. if the money is worth it still then good luck to em. the difference between them and the western world is they will completely stifle upward mobility of brehs in their societies.
You can’t completely stop crash outs but the fact that Kenyan politicians have the same mentality as you is the problem.

Tanzania is much poorer than Kenyan but they don’t allow fukkery like this.
 

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When Kenyan Maids Sought Help Overseas, Diplomats Demanded Sex
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Women say that embassy officials added a new level of indignity to the abuse they suffered while working abroad.

April 4, 2025
Selestine Kemoli fled to the Kenyan Embassy in Riyadh in 2020, terrified and desperate.

Ms. Kemoli had been working in Saudi Arabia as a maid. Like many East Africans in her situation, she said, she was being abused. She told the embassy’s labor attaché that her boss slashed her breasts with a paring knife, forced her to drink urine and raped her.

Broke and alone, she wanted help getting home to her two children in Kenya.

“You are beautiful,” the labor attaché, Robinson Juma Twanga, responded, according to Ms. Kemoli.

Mr. Twanga offered to help, she said, but with a catch. “I will sleep with you, just the same way your boss has slept with you,” she remembers him saying.

Multiple women, who did not know each other and lived in separate counties, told The New York Times that when they fled abuse in Saudi Arabia, Mr. Twanga demanded sex or money, or pressured them to go into sex work to pay for a ticket home.

A man in a blue suit and striped tie sits in an office chair, leaning on a desk.
Robinson Juma Twanga, the Kenyan labor attaché, during a conversation about protecting overseas workers in 2021.
Lawyers say they have collected similar accounts from numerous women involving other embassy officials. They said that Mr. Twanga is but one example of how these officials exploit women at their most vulnerable moments.

A spokesman for William Ruto, Kenya’s president, commenting on behalf of the Foreign Ministry, said he had no knowledge of such complaints or any mistreatment by embassy officials.

Reached by phone and told what the women had said about him, Mr. Twanga replied: “I cannot get involved in that kind of story.” He said he is retired.

The women, who were interviewed across Kenya, gave consistent accounts. They said Kenyan officials insulted them and questioned whether they needed help, even when they arrived at the embassy destitute and with visible signs of abuse.

Ms. Kemoli, for instance, still has a scar across her chest and arms.

“They didn’t care for us,” said Faith Gathuo. She left for Saudi Arabia in 2014 and said that, when she sought help after being beaten and raped, another embassy official demanded money and anal sex.

Tens of thousands of Kenyans go each year to Saudi Arabia, where they can earn more than in their home country, which is in a prolonged economic crisis. Hundreds have died. Many more have endured abuse, gone unpaid or wound up detained in a country that lacks effective legal protection for East African workers.

A Times investigation last month revealed that powerful East African and Saudi figures make money off the labor system that sends these workers abroad.

When things go wrong, these latest interviews show, other powerful officials seek to profit.

Multiple women identified Mr. Twanga. Ms. Kemoli said he asked for sex. Two others said that when they asked for help, he berated them and told them to return to their employers.

A fourth woman, Feith Shimila Murunga, said that her boss beat her and poured hot water on her as punishment. When she sought the embassy’s help, she said, Mr. Twanga told her that if she didn’t want to return to her employer, maybe she could become a prostitute.

Feith Shimila Murunga in a white sweater, hands clasped in front of her.
Feith Shimila Murunga.Kiana Hayeri for The New York Times
Lawyers in Nairobi provided the written accounts of six other women who said Mr. Twanga refused to help or told them to go into sex work.

“There’s no one holding them accountable,” said Bonareri Okeiga, who until recently was a program coordinator at Global Justice Group, a legal aid organization that has helped women document their experiences in hopes of getting them compensation.

While Mr. Twanga’s name surfaced repeatedly, workers and their families also described difficult experiences with other officials.

The relatives of three workers who died in Saudi Arabia said that officials at Kenya’s Foreign Ministry solicited cash to bring the bodies home. Hussein Mohamed, the president’s spokesman, said families were sometimes asked “to chip in” because the ministry cannot afford to pay for all of the bodies.

But relatives who returned to the ministry with lawyers said that they were told that they did not actually need to pay.

Years after returning from Saudi Arabia, Ms. Gathuo still has a gap in her smile from when, she said, her boss smashed her face with a pressure cooker. After he raped and impregnated her, she said, she escaped.

An embassy official offered to help, she said, if she paid him and had anal sex with him. She agreed, she said, and gave him all she had — about $500. But he never sent her home. Eventually, Saudi Arabia deported her.

Mr. Mohamed, the presidential spokesman, did not answer questions about Ms. Gathuo’s account.

Ms. Kemoli, who said her employer raped and cut her, said she refused Mr. Twanga’s proposition for sex. A well-connected relative in Kenya ultimately contacted the International Organization for Migration, which bought her a ticket home in 2021.

Ms. Kemoli said she has never been fully paid for her work in Saudi Arabia. She said she suffers from insomnia and often breaks down sobbing, seemingly unprompted. She said she has attempted suicide.

Sometimes, she said, her children ask about her scars.
 

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When Kenyan Maids Sought Help Overseas, Diplomats Demanded Sex
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Women say that embassy officials added a new level of indignity to the abuse they suffered while working abroad.

April 4, 2025
Selestine Kemoli fled to the Kenyan Embassy in Riyadh in 2020, terrified and desperate.

Ms. Kemoli had been working in Saudi Arabia as a maid. Like many East Africans in her situation, she said, she was being abused. She told the embassy’s labor attaché that her boss slashed her breasts with a paring knife, forced her to drink urine and raped her.

Broke and alone, she wanted help getting home to her two children in Kenya.

“You are beautiful,” the labor attaché, Robinson Juma Twanga, responded, according to Ms. Kemoli.

Mr. Twanga offered to help, she said, but with a catch. “I will sleep with you, just the same way your boss has slept with you,” she remembers him saying.

Multiple women, who did not know each other and lived in separate counties, told The New York Times that when they fled abuse in Saudi Arabia, Mr. Twanga demanded sex or money, or pressured them to go into sex work to pay for a ticket home.

A man in a blue suit and striped tie sits in an office chair, leaning on a desk.
Robinson Juma Twanga, the Kenyan labor attaché, during a conversation about protecting overseas workers in 2021.
Lawyers say they have collected similar accounts from numerous women involving other embassy officials. They said that Mr. Twanga is but one example of how these officials exploit women at their most vulnerable moments.

A spokesman for William Ruto, Kenya’s president, commenting on behalf of the Foreign Ministry, said he had no knowledge of such complaints or any mistreatment by embassy officials.

Reached by phone and told what the women had said about him, Mr. Twanga replied: “I cannot get involved in that kind of story.” He said he is retired.

The women, who were interviewed across Kenya, gave consistent accounts. They said Kenyan officials insulted them and questioned whether they needed help, even when they arrived at the embassy destitute and with visible signs of abuse.

Ms. Kemoli, for instance, still has a scar across her chest and arms.

“They didn’t care for us,” said Faith Gathuo. She left for Saudi Arabia in 2014 and said that, when she sought help after being beaten and raped, another embassy official demanded money and anal sex.

Tens of thousands of Kenyans go each year to Saudi Arabia, where they can earn more than in their home country, which is in a prolonged economic crisis. Hundreds have died. Many more have endured abuse, gone unpaid or wound up detained in a country that lacks effective legal protection for East African workers.

A Times investigation last month revealed that powerful East African and Saudi figures make money off the labor system that sends these workers abroad.

When things go wrong, these latest interviews show, other powerful officials seek to profit.

Multiple women identified Mr. Twanga. Ms. Kemoli said he asked for sex. Two others said that when they asked for help, he berated them and told them to return to their employers.

A fourth woman, Feith Shimila Murunga, said that her boss beat her and poured hot water on her as punishment. When she sought the embassy’s help, she said, Mr. Twanga told her that if she didn’t want to return to her employer, maybe she could become a prostitute.

Feith Shimila Murunga in a white sweater, hands clasped in front of her.
Feith Shimila Murunga.Kiana Hayeri for The New York Times
Lawyers in Nairobi provided the written accounts of six other women who said Mr. Twanga refused to help or told them to go into sex work.

“There’s no one holding them accountable,” said Bonareri Okeiga, who until recently was a program coordinator at Global Justice Group, a legal aid organization that has helped women document their experiences in hopes of getting them compensation.

While Mr. Twanga’s name surfaced repeatedly, workers and their families also described difficult experiences with other officials.

The relatives of three workers who died in Saudi Arabia said that officials at Kenya’s Foreign Ministry solicited cash to bring the bodies home. Hussein Mohamed, the president’s spokesman, said families were sometimes asked “to chip in” because the ministry cannot afford to pay for all of the bodies.

But relatives who returned to the ministry with lawyers said that they were told that they did not actually need to pay.

Years after returning from Saudi Arabia, Ms. Gathuo still has a gap in her smile from when, she said, her boss smashed her face with a pressure cooker. After he raped and impregnated her, she said, she escaped.

An embassy official offered to help, she said, if she paid him and had anal sex with him. She agreed, she said, and gave him all she had — about $500. But he never sent her home. Eventually, Saudi Arabia deported her.

Mr. Mohamed, the presidential spokesman, did not answer questions about Ms. Gathuo’s account.

Ms. Kemoli, who said her employer raped and cut her, said she refused Mr. Twanga’s proposition for sex. A well-connected relative in Kenya ultimately contacted the International Organization for Migration, which bought her a ticket home in 2021.

Ms. Kemoli said she has never been fully paid for her work in Saudi Arabia. She said she suffers from insomnia and often breaks down sobbing, seemingly unprompted. She said she has attempted suicide.

Sometimes, she said, her children ask about her scars.
read between the lines

this is a predatory game on both sides.

you could post all these testimonials at the airport and a group of women would still fly thru there on their way to be the next ones. who will stop them from selling themselves?
 

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You can’t completely stop crash outs but the fact that Kenyan politicians have the same mentality as you is the problem.

Tanzania is much poorer than Kenyan but they don’t allow fukkery like this.
Tanzania also has a lot of muslim people. they mostly targed non muslims for these "jobs"
 

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This will become more common worldwide , as illegal immigration rises.

The U.S is already participating in it , with El Salvador . That just gave the rest of the world , a green light .

just a matter of time , before more prisons made specifically for immigrants pop up and they are forced to work for free A.K.A slavery.
 

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This will become more common worldwide , as illegal immigration rises.

The U.S is already participating in it , with El Salvador . That just gave the rest of the world , a green light .

just a matter of time , before more prisons made specifically for immigrants pop up and they are forced to work for free A.K.A slavery.
You mean like here in the US with hundreds of thousands of black men being paid slave wages to outsource for US companies ran by CACS?

The selective bias is insane.
 

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You mean like here in the US with hundreds of thousands of black men being paid slave wages to outsource for US companies ran by CACS?

The selective bias is insane.

i was keeping it in the context of this thread.

both wrong.
 
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