"NOTORIOUS THUGS" -VS- "THUG LUV"......

Which song do you like BETTER???

  • Notorious Thugs

    Votes: 97 51.6%
  • Thug Luv

    Votes: 69 36.7%
  • TIE

    Votes: 22 11.7%

  • Total voters
    188

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What's up Coli, This is my 1st thread and it ain't a Hip Hop Board without an annual comparison of these two Classic songs. Let's get something straight, I may have Biggie in my avi but Pac is easily a Top 5 Emcee of All Time and one of the greatest and most impactful rap artist ever. Bone Thugs (Along with working with Eazy E and Big Pun) had the honor of working with both Big and Pac in their primes. It produced two Hip Hop Classic Callabo's.





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THUG LUV - This Hard Body rap tracks sees Pac spitting a slow but raw verse. He didn't try to match Bone at all. He just brought his style to the track. Bone goes in with their verses also. The Beat by DJ UNEEK is HARD. The Gun-shots alone make you want to fight someone, lol. Bone went in, all 4 members but Pac's aggression on the track stands out. Again the Gunshots just really drive the track. You can't help but nod your head. Also I like Pac's flow with the whole "Cleveland, late last evening" style and sh!t. Dope.






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NOTORIOUS THUGS - By far at the time one of the most shocking callabo's. When "Life After Death" was released and Disc 2 started out with this track. Nobody knew what to expect. That piano loop dropped, you heard "It's Bone and Biggie, Biggie" and the rest is history as they say. Produced by Stevie J (Yes of Love and Hip Hop for you youngin's) and Diddy. This callabo is one of the best in rap history. Biggie switched up his normal slow flow to a mid-tempo flow to match his Bone Brothers and shocked hip hop with one of the most quotable verses ever. Bizzy, Krazyie and Lazyie would all drop solid verses but Big's verse seem to stand out.



So in the end, which one do you like better and WHY???? Again both are Classics so it's not that anyone can throw rocks at either but which one do you honestly fell more? That's amazing Bone worked with Both at that point in their careers.
 
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thug luv was iller the beat and the gun shots is crazy pac's rhyme scheme was iller then biggie shyt wayyyyyyyyy iller


I think for sure "Thug Luv" was a HARDER track cause of the atmosphere of the beat. And yes, those GUNSHOTS are like DAMN, this shyt is hard body. Better Rhyme Scheme? No, Better Production, No. My vote goes to "Notorious Thugs" cause between the two, that song sounds like it was a TRUE Bone Song. Don't get me wrong, "Thug Luv" was on their album so it was a Bone song also but Stevie J, Diddy and Big made a Bone Song and put it on his album. That was way harder to do. Thug Luv was produced by DJ UNEEK. What separates "Notorious Thugs" is it was so melodic. Also by not having Wish on the track (The Weakest Member) it was like "Notorious Thugs" got the best of Bone with Bizzy, Krazyie and Lazyie.

Also you have to give Big credit. He emulated their flow but did it with his own Brooklyn style. Pac didn't even try cause he knew he could match them so he just did his own thing. Big actually took the track back to NY, studied their flow and came out with his verse. I don't care who you are, or what you were doing. I know for sure just talking to friends that everyone who heard Big's verse was blow away in 97. Nobody expected him to rap fast. Now Big's fast rapping was still slow in comparison to Bone but for Big that was like a triple-time flow. Also the clarity in his voice it just worked. So "Notorious Thugs" takes this. It's just the type of track you can blaze to, chill and just zone the fukk out. Straight up.
 

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I think for sure "Thug Luv" was a HARDER track cause of the atmosphere of the beat. And yes, those GUNSHOTS are like DAMN, this shyt is hard body. Better Rhyme Scheme? No, Better Production, No. My vote goes to "Notorious Thugs" cause between the two, that song sounds like it was a TRUE Bone Song. Don't get me wrong, "Thug Luv" was on their album so it was a Bone song also but Stevie J, Diddy and Big made a Bone Song and put it on his album. That was way harder to do. Thug Luv was produced by DJ UNEEK. What separates "Notorious Thugs" is it was so melodic. Also by not having Wish on the track (The Weakest Member) it was like "Notorious Thugs" got the best of Bone with Bizzy, Krazyie and Lazyie.

Also you have to give Big credit. He emulated their flow but did it with his own Brooklyn style. Pac didn't even try cause he knew he could match them so he just did his own thing. Big actually took the track back to NY, studied their flow and came out with his verse. I don't care who you are, or what you were doing. I know for sure just talking to friends that everyone who heard Big's verse was blow away in 97. Nobody expected him to rap fast. Now Big's fast rapping was still slow in comparison to Bone but for Big that was like a triple-time flow. Also the clarity in his voice it just worked. So "Notorious Thugs" takes this. It's just the type of track you can blaze to, chill and just zone the fukk out. Straight up.

Ill give Big credit for trying I guess...but Pacs flow on just about every song he does is based off riding the particular beat at hand so you can understand why his flow is what it is over that particular beat...Pac obviously had better breath control then biggie and could've rappped fast too....he murdered that Thug Luv beat:to:....notorious thugz is a little cheesy in a side by side comparison...hook sounding like the song off that Lost Boyz movie with the vampires wit the choir of lil boys singing "I shaaaalll not shaaaaah,I shaaall not seeee":laff::what: beat kinda wack too.



[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWndAmRpMJY]YouTube - 2pac - Thug Luv (OG)[/ame]

Meanwhile the OG shytS ON BOTH,please give us that cdq,so sinister:sadcam:
 

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Also don't get me wrong, I like Wish very much even though he wasn't better than others. It's rumored that he's provided vocals on the hook but he is not credited on LAD so I don't know. Flesh was in the studio that day as pictured so he may be uncredited also.
 

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What's crazy is Bone Thugs ADMITTED Biggie ripped them on their own style and flow. That was way harder for him to do and more creative. Sure Pac's verse was hard, there was no doubt about it. But for Big to show Bone love by mimicking their flow and coming out with such a great quotable verse you have to give him the nod. I mean Bone themselves admitted basically Big murdered them on their own sh!t:

Layzie Bone: “Puffy called us and said, ‘BIG want y’all on a record.’ We are like, ‘Hell yeah…we coming.’ We end up being in the studio with Biggie all night. We did all of our verses and then BIG was like, ‘You know what? I’m going to take this home.’ When BIG went home we did not hear that record until after he passed.”

Flesh-N-Bone: “Hearing Biggie do our style was incredible. I understood why he had to take it home and study it for a minute. He put his own spin on our Bone flow.”

Krayzie Bone: “It was bitter sweet. Biggie ripped it but we didn’t have the opportunity to tell him how much he ripped it. He came out and did his thing on the song to where he put another notch under his belt because our style is not easy to where you can just say, ‘I’m going to rap like these dudes.’ Especially back then when we were first coming out. For a New York rapper to do our style was a risk. But when he did it that n*gga killed it. New York showed us a lot of love off of that record. ‘Notorious Thugs’ and ‘Crossroads’ are the only songs they played in NYC by Bone. It was Bone and Biggie.”



Also Big's verse was so dope, they remixed that ish 8 years later and sped it up and it sounded just as good still as Twista and Krazyie spitting new verses on "Spit Yo Game":

 
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Thug Luv . Notorious Thugs got me hyped when I first heard it, but the beat and the hook made the track more than the raps. Thug Luv on the other hand, had me :ooh: when I heard Bizzy's verse and :gladbron: when I heard Pac's.

Besides, B.N.K. >>>>>>>>>>Notorious Thugs

Eazy-E ft.Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - B.N.K. - YouTube

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Had u said Fo The Luv Of Money I woulda had to :ohhh:...but Eazye E's wife:noah:...wuznt she fukin wit Layzie and then had him thrown out a window at sum point by security:laff: I heard that shyt sumwhere..rumor or not I wuz rollin
 
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