Noam Chomsky: “We’re approaching the most dangerous point in human history”

[BK The Great]

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

What did you get from that rambling that you believe was worth sharing or what is your opinion on it?

 

[Pressure]

people gotta stop with this hyperbole.

Also, is he still blaming NATO for Russia encroaching on Ukraine sovereignty?

According to Chomsky, the Western push to get Ukraine to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was a big mistake that could lead to war with Russia.

he's warning over Trump, maybe he still thinks we need more open Debate with him

 

[NZA]

open threats of nuclear war, the proliferation of conventional weapons, and rising popularity of fascists in daily life. we have a lot of people who are too casual about nuclear weapons and think only the real nazis are the ones in the history book. a hard head makes a soft ass. i hope we dont have to learn the hard way.

 

[Pressure]

open threats of nuclear war, the proliferation of conventional weapons, and rising popularity of fascists in daily life. we have a lot of people who are too casual about nuclear weapons and think only the real nazis are the ones in the history book. a hard head makes a soft ass. i hope we dont have to learn the hard way.

Nah, just that time when actual nuclear weapons were being launched and proliferated at a level never before or since just seems worse.

Threats << action and nothing suggests anyone is looking to destroy the entire world right now.

 

[NZA]

Nah, just that time when actual nuclear weapons were being launched and proliferated at a level never before or since just seems worse.

Threats << action and nothing suggests anyone is looking to destroy the entire world right now.

logically: nothing << threats << accidents << action
and nobody wants to destroy the world. the problem is if a nuke does hit, for whatever reason, it starts something that probably cant be stopped. the whole point of the doomsday clock is that the conditions themselves are the majority of the reasons we reach midnight, not just people's motives. the clock goes back and forward not simply because there are fewer people making threats. it is a wholistic assessment of conditions.

 

[Pressure]

logically: nothing << threats << accidents << action
and nobody wants to destroy the world. the problem is if a nuke does hit, for whatever reason, it starts something that probably cant be stopped. the whole point of the doomsday clock is that the conditions themselves are the majority of the reasons we reach midnight, not just people's motives. the clock goes back and forward not simply because there are fewer people making threats. it is a wholistic assessment of conditions.

Sure, but we have had worse periods of nuclear strife and war in my life than we do right now.

The world as we know it is always close to being fukked. It's human nature.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

people gotta stop with this hyperbole.

Also, is he still blaming NATO for Russia encroaching on Ukraine sovereignty?



he's warning over Trump, maybe he still thinks we need more open Debate with him

Rare moments we agree. Chomsky was finger wagging people who wanted to take an insane person and remove his ramblings rightfully from the public sphere now he’s warning us about that same person????!

Spare me that garbage

 

[Vandelay]

logically: nothing << threats << accidents << action
and nobody wants to destroy the world. the problem is if a nuke does hit, for whatever reason, it starts something that probably cant be stopped. the whole point of the doomsday clock is that the conditions themselves are the majority of the reasons we reach midnight, not just people's motives. the clock goes back and forward not simply because there are fewer people making threats. it is a wholistic assessment of conditions.

It's like Dominoes, you only have to push 1. My fear is, beyond the apparent rise of fascist regimes or anocracy in the US...the entire world sees Ukraine had nukes, dismantled them under the pretext they never would be invaded, only to get invaded...

Every country capable is not only going to militarize themselves more fully, they are going to seek their own WMD programs to avoid regime change. This war sets up precedents that the general public will never fully grasp until after the consequences have already happened and it only takes a Pakistan launching a missile at India, a Israel launching a missile at Saudi Arabia, a DRPK launching a missile at South Korea and we've got a full blown acceleration towards another World War.

 

[Leasy]

Donald Trump won't be able to run again. The only thing changing is the wealth distribution in the world and the Whites declining

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Can't even tell from the responses who listened to the video and who did not.

Why is no one mentioning irreversible climate change when that was a major point of the OP video?

people gotta stop with this hyperbole.

Which part is hyperbole?

* Climate change and overall environmental destruction is reaching its breaking point, where we not only are fukking up the planet for nature but are seriously degrading human welfare and could be creating permanent changes that we won't be able to recover from on a timeline meaningful to human society as we know it

* Increased nuclear proliferation with the most dangerous, unstable leaders we've ever had in control of nuclear weapons

* Rising support for fascism and anti-democracy, not just in fringe nations but in massive population centers - Russia and China are not only totalitarian but becoming increasingly so, with India, Brazil, and the USA all trying to join their ranks.


Those are three existential crises for human history that have never hit simultaneously like they're hitting now. And unfortunately they aggravate each other - the rising fascism makes the nuclear proliferation even more dangerous, and most of the fascist parties (with the possible exception of China) are doubling down on environmental degradation.


(note - I didn't even include the insane anti-science movement, where the Trumps and Modis and Bolsonaros of the world can simply declare science and reality to be wrong and create their own "truth" even if it kills hundreds of thousands of their own people.)

 

[Vandelay]

Can't even tell from the responses who listened to the video and who did not.

Why is no one mentioning irreversible climate change when that was a major point of the OP video?





Which part is hyperbole?

* Climate change and overall environmental destruction is reaching its breaking point, where we not only are fukking up the planet for nature but are seriously degrading human welfare and could be creating permanent changes that we won't be able to recover from on a timeline meaningful to human society as we know it

* Increased nuclear proliferation with the most dangerous, unstable leaders we've ever had in control of nuclear weapons

* Rising support for fascism and anti-democracy, not just in fringe nations but in massive population centers - Russia and China are not only totalitarian but becoming increasingly so, with India, Brazil, and the USA all trying to join their ranks.


Those are three existential crises for human history that have never hit simultaneously like they're hitting now. And unfortunately they aggravate each other - the rising fascism makes the nuclear proliferation even more dangerous, and most of the fascist parties (with the possible exception of China) are doubling down on environmental degradation.


(note - I didn't even include the insane anti-science movement, where the Trumps and Modis and Bolsonaros of the world can simply declare science and reality to be wrong and create their own "truth" even if it kills hundreds of thousands of their own people.)

Climate refugees and the inevitable water wars are only going exacerbate this.

It's about to be a amalgamation of clusterfukks.

A large part of the world's issues today are because people just created arbitrary borders and resettled people without regard to history. What happens when 1, 2, 5 million refugees from Nigeria, India, Taiwan, South Korea have no choice but to permanently settle in another country because large parts of their country are just underwater and simply don't exist...it's going to get ugly.

 

[Broke Wave]

Noam Chomsky did and said a lot of decent things a long time ago. He may be right partially in this case, but generally he has been an authoritarian monster when it comes to the Vai Ruzz. Therefore, he can go to hell.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Noam Chomsky did and said a lot of decent things a long time ago. He may be right partially in this case, but generally he has been an authoritarian monster when it comes to the Vai Ruzz. Therefore, he can go to hell.