NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE!!!!!

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ok then dont, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want....man police really got you lames shook on here
 

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Actually, watch the whole video.
The point the professor is making is to CYA. So you can talk to the police but only after you have your lawyer with you. So you can be innocent and having a lawyer with you during questioning. This allows a second person to vouch for your responses to all questions.
In this environment, if a cop questions you, you can answer "I wasn't there." or you can just plead the fifth. And then, in court, the cop can't say "I asked him a question and he said he was there" because then the attorney will object and say your response was "I wasn't there" and then the cop's credibility will be in question for lying in court.
 

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Actually, watch the whole video.
The point the professor is making is to CYA. So you can talk to the police but only after you have your lawyer with you. So you can be innocent and having a lawyer with you during questioning. This allows a second person to vouch for your responses to all questions.
In this environment, if a cop questions you, you can answer "I wasn't there." or you can just plead the fifth. And then, in court, the cop can't say "I asked him a question and he said he was there" because then the attorney will object and say your response was "I wasn't there" and then the cop's credibility will be in question for lying in court.


isnt this common sense, who the hell doesnt get a lawyer when being questioning
 

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Actually, watch the whole video.
The point the professor is making is to CYA. So you can talk to the police but only after you have your lawyer with you. So you can be innocent and having a lawyer with you during questioning. This allows a second person to vouch for your responses to all questions.
In this environment, if a cop questions you, you can answer "I wasn't there." or you can just plead the fifth. And then, in court, the cop can't say "I asked him a question and he said he was there" because then the attorney will object and say your response was "I wasn't there" and then the cop's credibility will be in question for lying in court.


You didn't watch the video. He explains how that can put you in jail even if you were innocent and you weren't really even there
 

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isnt this common sense, who the hell doesnt get a lawyer when being questioning

Everybody knows that (or most people do) but its a difference between talking about it on the coli and being actually accused. If you're truly innocent you can't help but be trying to clear your name, Everybody thinks they know EXACTLY what they'd do until they're sitting in a cell/interview room being charged with that First degree :whew:
 

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isnt this common sense, who the hell doesnt get a lawyer when being questioning
A lot. I've read Miranda to a lot of people that I arrested. Some of them said they wanted to talk to their attorney or they wanted to plead the fifth. Others, who were guilty, like a shoplifter who was busted by store security just answered my questions. It really wouldn't have made my case more difficult to prosecute anyway as the leading witness in the case would have been the store security dude. In those cases, I'm rarely questioned by either attorney and sometimes, it's just a matter of showing up and answering a question by the defense attorney if he was cooperative during the arrest. That way, when I respond yes, it lets the judge know he was cooperative and should possibly be given leniency for his crime, like more time suspended or decreased charge.
 

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isnt this common sense, who the hell doesnt get a lawyer when being questioning
Watch The First 48... I would say 3/4 of the people on that show don't ask for a lawyer. The ones who don't talk, and ask for a lawyer on that show, are usually the ones who have long criminal backgrounds and know the system.
 

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Watch The First 48... I would say 3/4 of the people on that show don't ask for a lawyer. The ones who don't talk, and ask for a lawyer on that show, are usually the ones who have long criminal backgrounds and know the system.
Makes sense. Too bad they still most likely fukked by they priors already
 

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Makes sense. Too bad they still most likely fukked by they priors already
Yea. It's ironic, cause a lot of the times the ones who ask for a lawyer right away, usually seem to have the strongest case against them anyway. It's always the murder suspect with the weakest case, who breaks down and basically tells all to the detectives, sealing his fate.
 

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A lot. I've read Miranda to a lot of people that I arrested. Some of them said they wanted to talk to their attorney or they wanted to plead the fifth. Others, who were guilty, like a shoplifter who was busted by store security just answered my questions. It really wouldn't have made my case more difficult to prosecute anyway as the leading witness in the case would have been the store security dude. In those cases, I'm rarely questioned by either attorney and sometimes, it's just a matter of showing up and answering a question by the defense attorney if he was cooperative during the arrest. That way, when I respond yes, it lets the judge know he was cooperative and should possibly be given leniency for his crime, like more time suspended or decreased charge.


I know how the system works I work in the field
 

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Actually, watch the whole video.
The point the professor is making is to CYA. So you can talk to the police but only after you have your lawyer with you. So you can be innocent and having a lawyer with you during questioning. This allows a second person to vouch for your responses to all questions.
In this environment, if a cop questions you, you can answer "I wasn't there." or you can just plead the fifth. And then, in court, the cop can't say "I asked him a question and he said he was there" because then the attorney will object and say your response was "I wasn't there" and then the cop's credibility will be in question for lying in court.
OJ spoke with his lawyer before going to the hotel
 
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