Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)

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I only listed to the first half of the album from mass appeal yt page. Can someone deliver a PEPPERONI pizza to my MANSION plz.
 

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Hype might’ve been a bit too high because Magic was phenomenal and KD3 was a masterpiece.

This is a solid project, but coming after those two projects I can see why it’s polarizing.

Slow It Down is the magnum opus on here to me. Also Office Hours sans Curtis, What This All Really Means, Pistols, Motion are standouts

I like when Nas experiments with modern 808’s sound here n there, the ones on here just didn’t hit like on previous albums.

Off 3 listens I see it battling the first KD for last place, neither are wack by any means
 

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I think Salaam for the most part was good with Nas and given their last work was Life is Good I don’t know if it bottomed out

But you can’t blame him from running it back with Hit when they got better with each project and even with this one I’m not sure he gonna drop soon.
Again though I think Hit has proven he can rise to his level and some people are just holding it against him cause of who they perceive him to be as this FL trap pop guy

Salaam is dope, but by bottoming out, I mean Nas just dips. Salaam said he has like 60+ tracks that he did with Nas during the run that no one's heard, but Nas just wanted to try something else and he stopped working with him. So the music is just sitting.

As far as Hit, like someone else posted, his best sh*t with Nas is the music that other producers have come in and helped him with. I think he's decent, at times. But dope enough to oversee production on mad back to back Nas albums? Nah, lol. Nas is going to do what he wants, but he's turned down a lot of legends to do full-length albums with, to do them with Hit. That's wild.
 

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I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t hold Magic in that regard..

KD2 is the best Nas album since his prime
Magic is in the 8th to 10th range of best Nas albums
That’s probably cuz of the production. Kd2 was masterfully produced

But Nas was freestyling about half the album lol

Nas on KD3 is a completely different emcee from KD2, as a whole. The disparity is pretty glaring

Nas on KD 1 & KD 2 sounded like a legend aging gracefully. KD3 nikka literally sounded like he turned back the hands of time
 

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Salaam is dope, but by bottoming out, I mean Nas just dips. Salaam said he has like 60+ tracks that he did with Nas during the run that no one's heard, but Nas just wanted to try something else and he stopped working with him. So the music is just sitting.

As far as Hit, like someone else posted, his best sh*t with Nas is the music that other producers have come in and helped him with. I think he's decent, at times. But dope enough to oversee production on mad back to back Nas albums? Nah, lol. Nas is going to do what he wants, but he's turned down a lot of legends to do full-length albums with, to do them with Hit. That's wild.

What legends? :russ:
 

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Exactly! Because Hit relies on stock sounds and preset samples too much. He'll pull a stock sound right off of a keyboard and drop into a DAW and throw a loop on top and give that to Nas. Like you said, no feel or soul to a lot of his sh*t, and that's coming through crazily on this album. He's lazy behind the boards.

He'd be a much doper producer, if he started vinyl diggin' and learned how to put tracks together by hand. Instead of relying so much on automation and dragging and dropping. Been watching dude work since like '09. His approach has always been wild lazy.

His name is Hit Boy. That's what he's about and going into the studio with a mainstream artist you just want to crank shyt out. That's how you end up with nikkaz in Paris which is a straight jack of a premade loop but it's a hit. That works for popular music and he's not the only one doing that. The masses don't care about the details so it's a lot of microwave beats. Problem is when you start working with artists with a sample based background you can't always apply those same tricks and get away with it. People who listen closely will catch on to it.

He keeps thinking he can do any style but it's mimicry that misses all the nuance. He'll do a boom bap beat but the drums aren't hard enough. He'll do a soul beat with a sample pack loop. Perfect example is that reggae sample he used. There's examples of flipping a reggae sample that shyt on his attempt (Massage Seats, Sound Bwoy Buriell). He didn't put enough time in to perfect the vibe and get it sounding right.
 
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fukk I feel like throwing my phone at the wall or something... Can I erase this listening experience from my memory and pretend this album never existed??

If somebody told me I'd wake up to One Mic One Gun being the track I'd enjoyed the most on this album, knowing it was one of the weakest amongst 55 Nas/Hit tracks, I wouldn't never believed them... Yet that's exactly how I felt..

They got too confident and dropped some uninspired tired shyt, that's TO ME at the very bottom of Nas' discography. The beats are almost all ass, some playskool cheap ass SoundCloud shyt. But really Nas is even worse, shyt feels like listening to him on Summer on Smash for a full album, uncomfortable and uninspired...

Motion could've been a dope joint but WTF is this chorus? Bokeem is a good track, but nothing groundbreaking either. Ah fukk it, don't even feel like going thru songs... Will never listen to that shyt again
 

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Y’all stupid. This shyt go crazy hard.

I’m putting this over KD 1 and 2. Might be neck and neck with Magic. Hit-Boy bodied this shyt. Nas was spitting his ass off.

Motion
Ervin Magic Johnson
What It Really All Means
Slow It Down
Pistols On Your Album Cover

These joints is incredible. I don’t know what the fukk y’all hearing.
 
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