Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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I def feel like Hov is more accessible in the sense that he's going to go to dinner with you, show up at the studio to hear some music, invite artists to meetings etc. Part of that is his job - he's in chart of a label essentially, of course he's gonna be up on new shyt. But part is also personality. He's a hustler who wants to be in the mix, in the game, etc. Nas has always been more to himself and aloof. Some people take that as disrespect. Sometimes it leads to opportunities not happening. Nas working with Cole on more tracks would have made sense, especially post-Born Sinner. This isn't a criticism because hell I'm the same way in real life lol.

Hov has worked with each member of the new "big three" (Drake, Cole, Kendrick). Ironically each of them have given Nas glowing praise. Drake even got him a songwriting credit on Scorpion when he didn't have to. Will Nas work with them...we will see. No one will agree with me but I think musically the best fit would be Nas with Drake. Some straight up stunting on nikkas music, some bars for the hoes, over that typical OVO production (hard drums and moody 90s r&b samples)....it makes perfect sense.
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1). There are pics and footage of Nas in the studio with half the industry bro. Everyone from Big Krit to Yo Gotti. There’s footage of Nas in the studio with Meek Mill during their Dreams & Nightmares session where he’s praising Meek. Nas got songs with The Game when The Game was one of the hottest rappers on earth. Nas got songs with Rick Ross when Ross was at his peek. On the flip side Nas got songs with Killah Priest, who is an underground King but has never sniffed a platinum plaque. Nas also runs a label and when he signed Fashawn he hopped right on his second album KNOWING that Fash would probably never be a mainstream artist.


People act like Nas is some hermit but he’s been around and done songs with damn near every “worthy”’artist you can name except The Roots & Outkast. And he’s spoken glowingly of Outkast in the past so its no beef or problems there.


2). What song did Drake give Nas a writing credit on Scorpion? And uhhhh given Drake’s past how do we know that…you know what nevermind lol
 

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1). There are pics and footage of Nas in the studio with half the industry bro. Everyone from Big Krit to Yo Gotti. There’s footage of Nas in the studio with Meek Mill during their Dreams & Nightmares session where he’s praising Meek. Nas got songs with The Game when The Game was one of the hottest rappers on earth. Nas got songs with Rick Ross when Ross was at his peek. On the flip side Nas got songs with Killah Priest, who is an underground King but has never sniffed a platinum plaque. Nas also runs a label and when he signed Fashawn he hopped right on his second album KNOWING that Fash would probably never be a mainstream artist.


People act like Nas is some hermit but he’s been around and done songs with damn near every “worthy”’artist you can name except The Roots & Outkast. And he’s spoken glowingly of Outkast in the past so its no beef or problems there.


2). What song did Drake give Nas a writing credit on Scorpion? And uhhhh given Drake’s past how do we know that…you know what nevermind lol

You right, I don't think he's a hermit. I'm just saying he's not that guy whose at all the events, tapping in early with the hottest artists, etc. Think about how quick Hov jumped on Drake's shyt (third album), how quick he did a track with Kendrick (GKMC remix). How quick he signed Griselda, Meg, Yo Gotti, Mach Hommy, etc.

All of the Firm got songwriting credits on Mob Ties off Scorpion. It interpolates the Affirmative Action sample which you don't have to credit, but if you do typically it goes to whatever the sample is (I think it's an Italian song). Instead they cut a check to Trackmasters and The Firm. Pretty dope move of respect.
 

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Why would Nas want to write a verse like that for Drake?









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Bro I know you said that before and I swear on GOD I didn’t hear Lupe say that crazy shyt. I only heard him say he asked Nas to do an EP and Nas never responded.


Thats just a weird pitch in itself. Like I could see if it were somebody like Salaam Remi, who knew Amy PERSONALLY and was the one who introduced Nas to Amy. But a random rap nikka:wtf: I know Lupe is intelligent so i’d hope that maybe he’d pitch it better than you’re making it sound because it just sounds like an off the wall concept. Even for somebody like Lupe, who can write a conceptual song in his sleep, what could have been going through his head when he texted Nas that shyt?


Nas was “supposed” to do collab albums with AZ, Common, and Mobb Deep. Projects that never panned out, and yet Lupe thought to himself “THIS is the idea that’ll get him! We’ll do a project based on Nas’s DEAD FRIEND who I NEVER MET:krs:!!”




That shyt sounds bizarre just typing it
That is the concept for Samurai, based on her wishes to be a battle rapper in the 2015 documentary, but it's unrelated to his EP collab pitch. Maybe there was confusion because he talked about both of these things in the same interview.
 

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Lupe sounded impeccable on "King Nas" tho. I know the song is for his fam or sumn that's named Nas but that beat sounds just like "It ain't hard to tell" to me and he is jacking Nas' flow all thru it. Lupe stay on some double/triple meaning shyt

yeah, he was doing his best "It Ain't Hard To Tell"



but it doesn't sound anywhere as good as Elzhi's attempt

 
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