Alchemist and Nas would definitely be crazy. Premo would have to come out on this one and do what he has not done in a while as you said, make a great album or a string of beats that bring back that feeling he used to bring. The first song was cool but I agree it was not what it could have been and a lot of the songs on the albums with Hit were better quite easily. Premo would have to be Prem again and as someone else said I am not worried about Nas it is Premo who would have to come with it (And he is one of my GOATS hands down but mainly for his work in the 90s and early to mid 00s).
Nas & DJ Premier - Define My Name (new single out now, album releasing later this year)
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All Star
Alc fell off years ago im good on that
xiceman191
Superstar
I've liked his shyt that he did with Larry June
Alexander Wiggin
All Star
This shyt not coming out
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Preme's one of my GOAT's, so those joints are just aiiiiiiight, to me.
Those ain't on the level of what bro is capable of doing. And the Roc joint just dropped a couple of days ago. LOL!!
Guru's been gone for 15 years. Dude definitely hasn't been the same since Gu passed away. So for the few decent tracks he's knocked out, there's like 90 that just ain't up to par with his legacy. So he's gotta really shake that sh*t off for the Nas album. Because we need a damn classic!
Preem has more classics than most producers have placements. He doesn't make beats just to make beats all day. Unless you hire him (meaning he fukks with you), the only way you get a beat is if he just randomly comes up with something and thinks of you, he wants you on his project or someone turns a beat down and he thinks you may like it (Canibus passing on Devil's Pie and D'Angelo ending up with it). He doesn't do beat packs, he sits in the studio and makes the beat on the spot if at all possible. Chemistry is huge for someone like that so Guru passing likely did a number on him. He and Nas just have to find the chemistry and it will happen.
Why is this thread so long
I’m a Nas fan as much as anyone else but yall nggas just weird
4 months later yall nggas still at it
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
That's the issue though, he stopped making beats daily when Guru passed.
So he's been stuck in the same place. But dudes like Pete, ALC and Tip still make tracks every day. So they're building a skillset that's mad expansive. Premier's sending people beats that he's been sitting on for 10-20 years and just didn't use. And he's my dude, but he really needs to lock in for this Nas joint. I heard a nice amount of songs last year from it, and it wasn't on the level of what people would want from a Nas and Premier joint. I think he knows that, so it's gonna be a minute before we get the album. He needs to focus.
He NEVER made beats daily unless in album mode.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Premier's said mad times that when he was living in the Bronx and when he moved to Brooklyn, he used to "just get high and make beats" everyday.
Finesse used to be at his crib in the Bronx when he was roommates with Guru, and he said all Premier did was make beats all day. That's how Premier ended up doing all those tracks on Funky Technician. When he was working on Jeru's first joint, B.I.G. was always hanging with Jeru and B.I.G. also told him he needed beats for RTD. Premier said he was making beats daily, so he gave B.I.G. tracks that he heard while just hanging around, but Puff didn't like any of them. So B.I.G. told him to just make something using "Impeach the President" and that's how we got "Unbelievable". Premier was always making beats everyday. Dude was working with 25+ different artists at a given time. That was his thing when he was in his prime.
He's also said the opposite. He was just mad busy and in demand then.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Yeah, because NOW he doesn't do it anymore.
And because he's not doing it anymore, the quality of the beats fell off. He said he's been watching what Pete and Tip are doing. But he can't catch up to them and where they are today, if he's not willing to put the same amount of time in today that they are. He's doing all this YouTube and social media sh*t. ALC said he's making 3-4 beats a day, still. Pete Rock said he's still making beats everyday, Tip is too. All three of those dudes are having really dope runs. Preme can't do the same today, unless he's working at that level.
It probably can't hurt, but Premo is more groove and chemistry. If he needs a few warm ups like Define My Name, then they click, it will be fine.