Nas & DJ Premier - Define My Name (new single out now, album releasing later this year)

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I dont like this beat..
Breh gave Group Home his best work and Nas scraps..

How are you even comparing a 1995 DJ Premier to a 2024 DJ Premier? lol

Sadly expectations will kill the project, both are still good enough to drop something solid but if it's not a near classic or classic they'll say it's a let down.

Define My Name probably won't even be on the album, bonus track maybe but it was clearly recorded for the 30th Illmatic anniversary & announcement for the album.
 

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Saw Nas in 2008 live. It wasn't very memorable--he forgot lyrics and was constantly out of breath.
2000's Nas was rough live, but that was over a decade ago - dudes gives an amazing show now.

Some kid yelled out WE MAJOR and he did it on the spot. Had Green Lantern scrambling to find the beat.
 
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Wasn't that rumored two million dollar Neptunes beat supposed to be for Nas? I know it was bullshyt, but it was a wild time and I wonder what's the most someone actually paid for a beat. Neptunes and Timbaland were :eat:

Lupe said the beat for I’m Beamin was $100K which is why he shot a video for it and fought for it to be on the album
 

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Wasn't that rumored two million dollar Neptunes beat supposed to be for Nas? I know it was bullshyt, but it was a wild time and I wonder what's the most someone actually paid for a beat. Neptunes and Timbaland were :eat:

Yeah, but everyone's denying that now. LOL!! But I saw enough back then to believe that was on the table. But it's so ridiculous, they didn't want people to know about it.

But you're right though, Tim and The Neptunes were raping these rappers' budgets. It really was the dumbest sh*t EVER! Dudes had multi-million dollar budgets just for beats, lol.
 

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@Awesome Wells, do you know what was going on with The Lost Tapes II back in 2010? Nas was trying to put it out, then he sent that email to Def Jam accusing them of mishandling the budget. I don't know what kind of budget you would need for an album full of tracks from the vault, but Nas moved on from it and started recording Life is Good afterwards. At least that's my understanding of it.
 

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@Awesome Wells, do you know what was going on with The Lost Tapes II back in 2010? Nas was trying to put it out, then he sent that email to Def Jam accusing them of mishandling the budget. I don't know what kind of budget you would need for an album full of tracks from the vault, but Nas moved on from it and started recording Life is Good afterwards. At least that's my understanding of it.

Yeah, that was a weird situation.

I never understood why he got mad at the label. Def Jam was paying for mad beats that Nas was using with producers, but just letting the songs sit. There was no real direction for them. So the label felt he was just recording for the sake of it but it was costing them mad bread. Dude recorded enough music to put out a few albums, but was just sitting on the music. Then he announced an album was coming without telling Def Jam he was gonna do that. So now people were thinking the label was holding him back, when the truth was, there were no real talks to even put anything out at that time.

He killed his own budget by having producers invoice the label for all that music, without the label being in on what he was doing with any of it. Bro had some of the most expensive producers selling him beats, and then going to Def Jam asking for their money. Some of those tracks were from the Life Is Good sessions too. That was like 9-10 years of random sh*t Nas was recording, with no real plan, but expected Def Jam to pay for it. So the label ended up having the same issues with him that Columbia did.
 

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@Awesome Wells, do you know what was going on with The Lost Tapes II back in 2010? Nas was trying to put it out, then he sent that email to Def Jam accusing them of mishandling the budget. I don't know what kind of budget you would need for an album full of tracks from the vault, but Nas moved on from it and started recording Life is Good afterwards. At least that's my understanding of it.

Def Jam said that if they release it, it won't count for 1 of the albums in the deal that he signed for as it's a compilation album.

They offered him a $200,000 budget for it & said he wouldn't be getting the same points off the album as he would if he released a recorded studio album, essentially paying him less.

I don't even think that Nas & Def Jam relationship was bad after that, obviously he caught some flack for the HHID & Untitled album titles but when he signed back in 2006, it was reported that the deal would be to drop 2 albums with a possible of a additional 2.

I think he ended up dropping 5/6 with Def Jam.

HHID, Untitled, Distant Relatives, LIG, Nasir & Lost Tapes 2.
 
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Def Jam said that if they release it, it won't count for 1 of the albums in the deal that he signed for as it's a compilation album.

They offered him a $200,000 budget for it & said he wouldn't be getting the same points off the album as he would if he released a recorded studio album, essentially paying him less.

I don't even think that Nas & Def Jam relationship was bad after that, obviously he caught some flack for the HHID & Untitled album titles but when he signed back in 2006, it was reported that the deal would be to drop 2 albums with a possible of a additional 2.

I think he ended up dropping 5/6 with Def Jam.

HHID, Untitled, Distant Relatives, LIG, Nasir & Lost Tapes 2.


Distant Relatives didn’t count towards his deal with Def Jam as it was released on Republic. Thats also why Nas was pissed.
 

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Distant Relatives didn’t count towards his deal with Def Jam as it was released on Republic. Thats also why Nas was pissed.

Looks like they didn’t count it towards the deal because it was a joint venture & not solely Def Jam…

Guess Canibus was right..

“Tryna escape the wicked empire of Def Jam”
 

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Yeah, that was a weird situation.

I never understood why he got mad at the label. Def Jam was paying for mad beats that Nas was using with producers, but just letting the songs sit. There was no real direction for them. So the label felt he was just recording for the sake of it but it was costing them mad bread. Dude recorded enough music to put out a few albums, but was just sitting on the music. Then he announced an album was coming without telling Def Jam he was gonna do that. So now people were thinking the label was holding him back, when the truth was, there were no real talks to even put anything out at that time.

He killed his own budget by having producers invoice the label for all that music, without the label being in on what he was doing with any of it. Bro had some of the most expensive producers selling him beats, and then going to Def Jam asking for their money. Some of those tracks were from the Life Is Good sessions too. That was like 9-10 years of random sh*t Nas was recording, with no real plan, but expected Def Jam to pay for it. So the label ended up having the same issues with him that Columbia did.

I mean he is a rapper so nas was rapping wtf. He has a label so that is whom gets the bills for the music have no clue what the problem is hear.
 

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He definitely got Pete on that one.

But he's always talking about how he would hear Pete remixes and what Q-Tip was doing, and feel like he needs to step it up. He said he heard Pete's remix for "Can't Stop The Prophet" and that made him go to the studio to work on some new sh*t, back in the day, because Pete was remixing his sh*t with Jeru. So I know he heard that Common album with Pete and felt like he needed to sharpen his tracks up because he ain't really been dropping no heat lately. LOL!!
its the other way around

primo played some nas for tip and pete

they got inspiration and built on that with LL and common

what i herd from the nas and primo honestly shook me to the core of my foundation because i still cant comprehend what i experienced

best nas album i ever herd up front
 
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