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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/03/msnbc-is-in-serious-trouble-185770.html?ml=po_r
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that's unfortunate. a pretty clear sign that most americans are fukking idiots filled with a lot of hate (racism, homophobia, etc.). msnbc isn't perfect, and they can shill a bit much for the president, but they are far and away the best news channel on cable/network television. cnn/fox/everything else (save for pbs, which i also am a fan of) pushes a right-wing agenda that is hostile to the interests of anyone that supports equality and an end to white supremacy. it's a shame, but i'm not surprised. most people in this country are exposing themselves as hate-filled pieces of shyt.
 

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It's because they appeal to the demographic that is most annoyed with political theater and is likely to read articles online, etc. The people who wake i the morning and read the NYT have no need to hear talking heads say the same things. MSNBC isn't the gateway to the world. When they were gaining in popularity it was because people wanted a left-leaning equivalent to Fox, but that type of energy isn't there anymore and people are annoyed with it on all sides. That and their anchors are dry and no one cares to see them talk. I may not always agree with Cenk and he may be prone to hyperbole and logical leaps that someone with his legal background has no business making (i.e. Maddow may have similar suspicions but she won't ever may that huge jump from A to Z), but they should have kept him on. At the very least he gets people fired up. They got rid of Keith Olbermann, and let Cenk go. No one wants to hear any of these other people talk about anything. They also gave Sharpton a show for no reason. If they want to get ratings they need to go outside the box and give Ralph Nader or someone of that ilk a show.
 

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that's unfortunate. a pretty clear sign that most americans are fukking idiots filled with a lot of hate (racism, homophobia, etc.). msnbc isn't perfect, and they can shill a bit much for the president, but they are far and away the best news channel on cable/network television. cnn/fox/everything else (save for pbs, which i also am a fan of) pushes a right-wing agenda that is hostile to the interests of anyone that supports equality and an end to white supremacy. it's a shame, but i'm not surprised. most people in this country are exposing themselves as hate-filled pieces of shyt.

I think you are looking at the numbers from a wrong perspective. A democratic president was voted TWICE and this is even WITH Fox News being the number cable news station.

MSNBC audience on the other hand doesn't go to cable news and has to appeal to an audience that relies more from social media, Internet, etc. for news while Fox grasp the demographic that only watches cable news.

Plus MSNBC is just garbage anyway....it may yield better sources of different media outlets...somewhere there lies a silver lining but for now it's clear who is the number one cable news network
 

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It's because they appeal to the demographic that is most annoyed with political theater and is likely to read articles online, etc. The people who wake i the morning and read the NYT have no need to hear talking heads say the same things. MSNBC isn't the gateway to the world. When they were gaining in popularity it was because people wanted a left-leaning equivalent to Fox, but that type of energy isn't there anymore and people are annoyed with it on all sides. That and their anchors are dry and no one cares to see them talk. I may not always agree with Cenk and he may be prone to hyperbole and logical leaps that someone with his legal background has no business making (i.e. Maddow may have similar suspicions but she won't ever may that huge jump from A to Z), but they should have kept him on. At the very least he gets people fired up. They got rid of Keith Olbermann, and let Cenk go. No one wants to hear any of these other people talk about anything. They also gave Sharpton a show for no reason. If they want to get ratings they need to go outside the box and give Ralph Nader or someone of that ilk a show.
imo the old MSNBC with Ratigan, Dan Abrams


1996-2007 - that was when the channel was best. I think they need to move from politics and back into hard news imo
 

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they dont have anyone to stir the flames of hate, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc like Fox has with Billy O and the gang

for the most part the only people you hear about are the fox anchors pissing people off --> viewers

on msnbc you maybe hear maddow said something once every six months and thats it
 

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content of the article doesnt match the headline. If the graphs are accurate, then they are less "dead" then they were over a decade ago. Notice how they focused on "revenues" and not net profits...there's a reason why MSNBC deals almost strictly in opinion, and doesnt commit to breaking news or stories or the like, which would significantly increase operating expenses. Ive always heard that MSNBC is a highly profitable and healthy channel.
 

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I think you are looking at the numbers from a wrong perspective. A democratic president was voted TWICE and this is even WITH Fox News being the number cable news station.

MSNBC audience on the other hand doesn't go to cable news and has to appeal to an audience that relies more from social media, Internet, etc. for news while Fox grasp the demographic that only watches cable news.

Plus MSNBC is just garbage anyway....it may yield better sources of different media outlets...somewhere there lies a silver lining but for now it's clear who is the number one cable news network

The problem is msnbc has chosen to be the democratic news network and parrot democratic talking points. in actuality there are not a lot of true democrats out there. I would say half the people who vote democrat are not democrats but simply anti-republican and picking the lessor of 2 evils.
 

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The problem is msnbc has chosen to be the democratic news network and parrot democratic talking points. in actuality there are not a lot of true democrats out there. I would say half the people who vote democrat are not democrats but simply anti-republican and picking the lessor of 2 evils.

Its not a problem...their revenues rose sharply once they committed themselves as an alternative fox news channel. Its a niche network, but a profitable and significant one. Their model is sound.

One thing I dont get about the graphs is why Fox News' revenues continue to soar, when their viewership has been cratering and flatlining since 2009
 

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they dont have anyone to stir the flames of hate, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc like Fox has with Billy O and the gang

MSNBC doesn't stir the flames of hatred, racism, sexism, and homophobia??? Uh, in the span of just one month MSNBC fired a host for saying he wanted to shyt in the mouth of a female politician, fired another host for calling a gay person a "fakkit", and forced another host to apologize for mocking a white family for adopting a black baby. What has Fox ever done as outrageous as that? Step outside of your liberal bubble for once.

Anyway it is pretty obvious why MSNBC is struggling. Besides the obvious fact that they are basically an infomercial for Democrats, the fact is their hosts are awful. What serious network would hire race baiting simpletons like Al Sharpton, Toure, Ed Schultz, and Chris Matthews??? Even MSNBC's so called "intellectual" Rachel Maddow refuses to bring on guests with opposing viewpoints who God forbid might actually challenge her beliefs. There is absolutely no debate allowed on MSNBC and that is boring.

However, the biggest reason that MSNBC is a failure is that the media as whole is overwhelmingly liberal. If you want to see liberal viewpoints on TV, you have a million different options (PBS, MSNBC, CNN, Current TV, Comedy Central, The View, etc). Conservatives only have Fox News.
 
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