Mother Teresa: Anything but a saint… University of Montreal exposé

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First Christopher Hitchens took her down, then we learned that her faith wasn’t as strong as we thought, and now a new study from the Université de Montréal is poised to completely destroy what shreds are left of Mother Teresa’s reputation. She was the winner of the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize, was beatified and is well on her way to becoming a saint, and she’s universally admired.

The criticisms of Agnes Gonxha, as she was christened, have been growing for a long time. I wasn’t aware of them until I read Christopher Hitchens’s cleverly titled book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, which I found deeply disturbing. The book is polemic at Hitchens’s best, and though the facts were surprising, he was never sued and his accusations were never refuted—nor even rebutted. (You can read excerpts here and here, but I urge you to read the book.) In light of that, I accepted Mother Teresa as a deeply flawed person.

In its “criticism” section of her biography, Wikipedia summarizes the growing opprobrium related to her extreme love of suffering (that is, the suffering of her “patients”), her refusal to provide adequate medical care, her association with (and financial support from) shady characters, and her treatment of her nuns.

Now a paper is about to appear (it’s not online yet) that is apparently peer-reviewed, and that expands the list of Mother Teresa’s malfeasances. Lest you think this is atheist hype, the summary below is from an official press release by the Université de Montréal.
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-03/uom-mta022813.php

At the time of her death, Mother Teresa had opened 517 missions welcoming the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. The missions have been described as "homes for the dying" by doctors visiting several of these establishments in Calcutta. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving appropriate care. The doctors observed a significant lack of hygiene, even unfit conditions, as well as a shortage of actual care, inadequate food, and no painkillers. The problem is not a lack of money—the Foundation created by Mother Teresa has raised hundreds of millions of dollars—but rather a particular conception of suffering and death: "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering," was her reply to criticism, cites the journalist Christopher Hitchens. Nevertheless, when Mother Teresa required palliative care, she received it in a modern American hospital.

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Well, I would take that with a grain of salt. Mother Teresa lived among the poor in poor regions of India. She wasn't living in a lap of luxury. She didn't live a lavish lifestyle. No gold, diamonds, or fancy clothes. She didn't take vacations in nice resorts.
Her lifestyle kind of sucked. You can't fake living in poverty without getting sick of it unless you really care about the people you are serving.
 

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Well, I would take that with a grain of salt. Mother Teresa lived among the poor in poor regions of India. She wasn't living in a lap of luxury. She didn't live a lavish lifestyle. No gold, diamonds, or fancy clothes. She didn't take vacations in nice resorts.
Her lifestyle kind of sucked. You can't fake living in poverty without getting sick of it unless you really care about the people you are serving.
Man this is not about her being a fake and more about her having strange sadomasochistic angel of death views and treatment of people who came through to get treatment from her places. No doubt she saved a lot of lives, but some of this shyt is chilling :huhldup:. Read some of what hitchens wrote about her....
 

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Man this is not about her being a fake and more about her having strange sadomasochistic angel of death views and treatment of people who came through to get treatment from her places. No doubt she saved a lot of lives, but some of this shyt is chilling . Read some of what hitchens wrote about her....
Well, if someone wants to discredit Mother Teresa, that's their business. I think it's a "damned if you and damned if you don't" situation and Mother Teresa chose to do it. You can only provide so much medical care to thousands of poor people, and what I mean by that is, she didn't have the infrastructure, logistics or managerial know-how to provide enough medical care to thousands of poor people. Looking at current US medical facilities, it would be the equivalent or running multiple city hospitals. That's a crap load of personnel, equipment, and building space: the magnitude of which she could not fathom of running. She saw things in a flat managerial organization with limited resources.
So, she did what she knew how to do. At least, she cared for as many needy people as possible rather than turning a blind eye. Not too many people are willing to do that, unless they were going to bank off of it, like taking the Nobel Peace prize money and buying a Porsche 911.
 

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Well, if someone wants to discredit Mother Teresa, that's their business. I think it's a "damned if you and damned if you don't" situation and Mother Teresa chose to do it. You can only provide so much medical care to thousands of poor people, and what I mean by that is, she didn't have the infrastructure, logistics or managerial know-how to provide enough medical care to thousands of poor people. Looking at current US medical facilities, it would be the equivalent or running multiple city hospitals. That's a crap load of personnel, equipment, and building space: the magnitude of which she could not fathom of running. She saw things in a flat managerial organization with limited resources.
So, she did what she knew how to do. At least, she cared for as many needy people as possible rather than turning a blind eye. Not too many people are willing to do that, unless they were going to bank off of it, like taking the Nobel Peace prize money and buying a Porsche 911.

jesus christ you did not read anything that OP posted
 

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Well, if someone wants to discredit Mother Teresa, that's their business. I think it's a "damned if you and damned if you don't" situation and Mother Teresa chose to do it. You can only provide so much medical care to thousands of poor people, and what I mean by that is, she didn't have the infrastructure, logistics or managerial know-how to provide enough medical care to thousands of poor people. Looking at current US medical facilities, it would be the equivalent or running multiple city hospitals. That's a crap load of personnel, equipment, and building space: the magnitude of which she could not fathom of running. She saw things in a flat managerial organization with limited resources.
So, she did what she knew how to do. At least, she cared for as many needy people as possible rather than turning a blind eye. Not too many people are willing to do that, unless they were going to bank off of it, like taking the Nobel Peace prize money and buying a Porsche 911.
all i'm gonna say is read the second link i posted in the OP, goddam :dead:
 

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jesus christ you did not read anything that OP posted
Yeah, I read it, but it comes off as hearsay. I can write an op-ed piece and say LeBron James secretly is super gay. You can't believe everything you read without more proof than just words.
 

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Yeah, I read it, but it comes off as hearsay. I can write an op-ed piece and say LeBron James secretly is super gay. You can't believe everything you read without more proof than just words.

:dahell: :mindblown:

Negro what? Stop being some paranoid conspiracy theorist. None of this is hearsay. Please go back and read the article and do some external research on the topic at hand.
 

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all of her great works aside, that belief in suffering is just absolutely appalling. fukking insanity

its really par for the course with religious people though, i mean shyt if you think that our lives are being controlled by an all powerful space daddy then i dont know what to tell you
 

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Negro what? Stop being some paranoid conspiracy theorist. None of this is hearsay. Please go back and read the article and do some external research on the topic at hand.
I'm not going to do any research. Mother Teresa is dead. I can't prove or disprove anything. I don't even have time to research even if she were alive. I've got a family, yo.
 

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remember reading up on her years ago. it seems that alot of this is always left out (historical re-writing)
 
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