Maybe black people should go back to black people music

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It's not even so much about being able to play an instrument. George Clinton couldn't play the lottery and he wrote and sang timeless music.

Black folks gotta get back to playing as GROUPS again. That is a grand tradition of black music. Our music has always been communal and a shared experience with a mentality of groups, harmonies, calls and responses, participation, improvisation and polyrhythmic structure that distinguishes African music from the traditions of European and Asian music, which mostly emphasized the training and rehearsed performance of a single person playing a single instrument, as entertainment for an individual rather than an experience to connect people.

We no longer play as groups. Pop artists are now driven by their own individual name and performance and abandoning those subtle traditions of black music. Our music is becoming static, predictable, more narcisstic than ever, and no longer has that depth that can only come from a group of folks working and experimenting together. One of the deepest roots of black musical theory.
 

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Black wealth, family structure and psychological state are at all time lows. Subject matter follows
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Could be worse?
 

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Black wealth, family structure and psychological state are at all time lows. Subject matter follows
No matter how bad it gets, rapping about killing and destroying each other should not be acceptable.

No other group would allow that no matter how bad it got

If a J*wish rapper made a song about destroying his community, that rapper would be mocked and outcasted. He would be looked at as a traitor to his community

The song would be scrubbed from the internet.

No matter how bad it gets, getting in a recording booth and making music that will be seen by the world about killing your brothers & sisters should never be acceptable.

Should be no excuses for that.
 
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No matter how bad it gets, rapping about killing and destroying each other should not be acceptable.
Killing each other is something we have accepted for decades. There’s no collective stand against rampant gang banging and domestic terrorism against our community by our own. Your focusing on the music but if we accept this shyt in our communities as a whole we def not concerned about the music enough to demand change.

Black America is at its worst state of all time the music will reflect that and at this rate will get worse
 

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Keep in mind, the people who ultimately control the media outlets and push and fund rap look like this:

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To be fair being on a Major today is a choice and not a necessary one.

to begin with a lot of these people are signed with a buzz. there is no artist development anymore. videos are cheap to shoot. you don't have to manufacture physicals. you can get a booking agent or manager for shows. you can sign independent digital distro deals. now even directly with DSP's or something like Tunecore. Advertising can be done relatively cheap. Radio is not super relevant and often playing catch up. Recording has never been easier or cheaper.

So i think that we have to put those old arguments to bed at some point. most rap you hear today was self funded before it had these type of backers.
 

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Chuck D said it best when he said that the very creativity/trend setting nature of Black people in America has a drawback. His exact words were "We're some trendy MFers".

The topic was about people creating genres, then casting them aside once they create the next trend.
BB King said the exact same thing when he was talking about how Rock n Roll came out, and Chuck Berry made Blues artist "obsolete" once the audience started following that.

That's what young people do.
 
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time for brehs to pick up guitars again. rap is not it anymore :francis:


Y'all really on this rap is crap west Texas redneck shyt huh?

All rap music ain't drill music and you don't have to listen to the ignorant shyt if you don't want to.

It's 2022 and everything thing that comes through my airwaves are approved by me.
 

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To be fair being on a Major today is a choice and not a necessary one.

to begin with a lot of these people are signed with a buzz. there is no artist development anymore. videos are cheap to shoot. you don't have to manufacture physicals. you can get a booking agent or manager for shows. you can sign independent digital distro deals. now even directly with DSP's or something like Tunecore. Advertising can be done relatively cheap. Radio is not super relevant and often playing catch up. Recording has never been easier or cheaper.

So i think that we have to put those old arguments to bed at some point. most rap you hear today was self funded before it had these type of backers.
I get what you're saying and I don't disagree but I guess I'm stepping back and looking at the big picture.

THOSE PEOPLE control and own the vast majority of media outlets (like 99%).

They own and control YouTube itself.

These drill videos don't amass millions of views without backing and funding from "them". They control the algorithm. I've had drill videos pop up in my phone and I don't even check for it.

Again, a J*wish rapper making the same content would never be heard of..... because THEY control the outlets.

But yea bro, I get what you are saying and it's ultimately US who support it.
 
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