Mathematical Model Suggests That Human Consciousness Is Noncomputable

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"One of the most profound advances in science in recent years is the way researchers from a variety of fields are beginning to formulate the problem of consciousness in mathematical terms, in particular using information theory. That's largely thanks to a relatively new theory that consciousness is a phenomenon which integrates information in the brain in a way that cannot be broken down. Now a group of researchers has taken this idea further using algorithmic theory to study whether this kind of integrated information is computable. They say that the process of integrating information is equivalent to compressing it. That allows memories to be retrieved but it also loses information in the process. But they point out that this cannot be how real memory works; otherwise, retrieving memories repeatedly would cause them to gradually decay. By assuming that the process of memory is non-lossy, they use algorithmic theory to show that the process of integrating information must noncomputable. In other words, your PC can never be conscious in the way you are. That's likely to be a controversial finding but the bigger picture is that the problem of consciousness is finally opening up to mathematical scrutiny for the first time."
 

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People are trying to understand the universe independent of consciousness, and it is the most important factor in the equation.

The universe as it relates to conscious life can be understood now. It is the ultimate truth; the truth that will transform mankind and the world.

You are immortal; it is impossible to not be, because it is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious. Just that one sentence proves it. It is like these sentences: It is impossible for it to be light and dark at the same time, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. They are simple, but certain facts. The sentence "It is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious" is a simple and certain fact.

Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be changed from one form to another. Albert Einstein



Like energy, consciousness cannot be created or destroyed.


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WELL IT'S LIKE BEING IGNORANT. YOU DONT KNOW YOU'RE IGNORANT UNTIL SOMEBODY POINTS IT OUT.

Eh not true exactly. You can be self aware about your ignorance in a particular subject. Not being able to acknowledge/admit it is hubris.

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Eh not true exactly. You can be self aware about your ignorance in a particular subject. Not being able to acknowledge/admit it is hubris.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I WANT EXPLAIN WHAT I SAID BETTER BUT fukk TYPING ON A PHONE.
 

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Eventually they will have this shyt down to a science

Maybe in another way instead of using computers

We don't know wut tha future holds

Creating babies is a pretty efficient way of creating conscious beings
 

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Thats the dumbest shyt I've ever heard :mjlol:
"It is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious"
Thats just some poetic stuff that doesn't really mean anything
if you are conscious of anything you aren't unconscious. you can't be both
 
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