Marvels Captain America 4 (Date TBC)

[Bathing Ape]

Giancarlo gotta be a secondary villian they are setting up for future movies. with the reshoots no way they could have filmed that much. This trailer looks good but the sam wilson show was trash and it's the same writer and director so I duno how this is gonna go.

He supposed to get his own Disney plus show if all goes well according to him

 

[null]

I agree with you.

They make a Black Man Captain America with a supporting actor instead of a lead actor,

i think they are regretting that now. they nerfed the role way back when by picking mackie and are now stuck with it.

mackie put on his concerned-face in the trailer when talking to pres ford but it's not convincing.

he is that bad.

and then it is hobbled by other production choices which have led to numerous reshoots.

REFUSE to give the character superpowers,

it could work without powers if they did it properly. from the trailer it looks like they are going to give him a suit made of "something special".

the problem is that mackie is not only a bad actor he is also short and lacks hero athleticism, jawline (making the mask look ill-fitting), hairline.

they established the character by setting him him up as a joker side-kick who got humbled by steve (the man he is trying to replace), winter soldier and even another joker ant-man.

now they are having difficulty flipping that script.

instead of something grandiose we get something small scale that looks like it was made for Disney+ instead of theaters, they then recycle elements that were done in previous movies (The Winter Soldier) so when this one drops the narrative will be the previous movie "DID IT BETTER" "it's a rehash" leaving this movie as a footnote and nothing more.

DISNEY aint shyt

i believe winter soldier II could work if done properly. why not?

coming 2nd to winter soldier in and of itself would not be such a bad thing.

in BB4 the directors tried some new things. some worked. some didn't. but at least they gave some thought to how they would present elements that we have seen 1009 times before on screen (i.e. shootouts).

the russo bros did the same thing. in WS, CW - cap stealth suit. new cap fighting using martial arts, cap mask off to deliver the final blow, shield bouncing at interesting angles (on the ship, in the building), close-close combat (elevator), high impact fall, cap and bucky sharing the shield to beat-down iron man. all new ideas which elevated their work above the action in cap 1. elevated due to creativity not CGI extravaganza. then they added nods to classics - bucky getting the shield, bucky punching the shield.

it elevated cap ( a hero with pretty basic powers ) to a fan fav badass.

what new or interesting in power presentation did we see in this trailer.

compare: two same-powered heroes on screen together shots

the russos even took the time to make sure that they drew their hands back in a synchronised manner when preparing to punch.

why not dovetail the two falcons .. like birds .. like jets flying in formation.



people miss those details but those details all add up.

 

[wire28]

Ross hitting Sam with the “not my captain america” is WILD

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Shang Chi was mostly good... but man, Simu Liu is a corny fukker. every time i see that dude i like him less

Man don’t no one care about some damn, shang chi…he should have been regulated to a disney plus character. They actually wasted a big budget movie on him just to appeal to chinese and they didn’t even fukk with it.

We wanted a real iron fist movie/show not that bullshyt we got and def not shang chi

 

[Lhark]

Ross hitting Sam with the “not my captain america” is WILD

"You may be Captain America but you’re not Steve Rogers"

He damn near called him boy

 

[Lhark]

This looks good I'm looking forward to it. Looks like White House Down with a Cap Shield and Harrison Ford.

 

[Ukbrotha]

"You may be Captain America but you’re not Steve Rogers"

He damn near called him boy

That shyt was bathed in ism.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Should be at least a decent popcorn action film.

 

[Return of the Jedi]

Man don’t no one care about some damn, shang chi…he should have been regulated to a disney plus character. They actually wasted a big budget movie on him just to appeal to chinese and they didn’t even fukk with it.

We wanted a real iron fist movie/show not that bullshyt we got and def not shang chi

Dude, it didn't even release in China. Hopefully that was the final wakeup call for Disney to stop shilling for the Chinese Communist Party.

 

[Jazzy B.]

This was a pretty good trailer. I like the tone they went with... it's still on that political spy thriller wave.

Naw they're just remaking Winter Soldier and it won't be better.

They need to come up with fresh ideas and move away from that movie.

 

[Devilinurear]

I use to have his action figure as a kid. He's a garbage character. Think he hunts mutants or some shıt.

He works with cable and was in shield

 

[Conz]

Man don’t no one care about some damn, shang chi…he should have been regulated to a disney plus character. They actually wasted a big budget movie on him just to appeal to chinese and they didn’t even fukk with it.

We wanted a real iron fist movie/show not that bullshyt we got and def not shang chi

i still think it's one of the better post-Endgame properties... but they clearly wanted to do Iron Fist, but shyt the bed so badly casting the guy on the show, they felt it was a "toxic" character for a while. a recast* probably show up in Shang-chi 2 or something and completely outshine the main character. shang-chi has been gone for so long, i don't think anyone is gonna ever give a shyt about him coming back, and he's gonna be awkward to just toss in an Avengers lineup. not the mention they're gonna strap him with Awkwafina again like anyone gives a shyt about her.

*or they'll just make his sister Iron Fist b/c girl power or whatever

 

[Conz]

they should do Hawkeye season 2 and have Awkwafina show up at Kate Bishop's archery competition, ya know b/c she's a master archer after 3 minutes of training, then have her take a stray arrow.

 

[Jazzy B.]

i believe winter soldier II could work if done properly. why not?

coming 2nd to winter soldier in and of itself would not be such a bad thing.

in BB4 the directors tried some new things. some worked. some didn't. but at least they gave some thought to how they would present elements that we have seen 1009 times before on screen (i.e. shootouts).

the russo bros did the same thing. in WS, CW - cap stealth suit. new cap fighting using martial arts, cap mask off to deliver the final blow, shield bouncing at interesting angles (on the ship, in the building), close-close combat (elevator), high impact fall, cap and bucky sharing the shield to beat-down iron man. all new ideas which elevated their work above the action in cap 1. elevated due to creativity not CGI extravaganza. then they added nods to classics - bucky getting the shield, bucky punching the shield.

it elevated cap ( a hero with pretty basic powers ) to a fan fav badass.

what new or interesting in power presentation did we see in this trailer.

compare: two same-powered heroes on screen together shots

Winter Soldier movie doesn't work without the action scenes and fight choreography the movie had.

It has the best action scenes of any marvel movie outside of Infinity War and Civil War.

The movie also had a major twist that had a major effect on the MCU world which was far more inter-connected than it is now. That's why it was impactful as it was.

Black Widow had the same tone as The Winter Soldier (outside of Russian Captain America) and even copied the story, nobody cares for it because there was no memorable action scene/choreography.

The russos between Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity also kept going bigger each time.

Winter Soldier - fights/action scenes between supersoldiers,
Civil War - fights/action scenes between superheroes,
Infinity War - fights/action scenes with supernatural characters/galactic beings.

This is why it never got stale. Plus the movies were built around the action set-pieces and the movies were fast paced to get to the next action scene. Though Civil War was slower

If the Russos were directing this, they would have made Sam Wilson a supersoldier and had him fighting Red Hulk and other Hulks throughout the movie and crafted the movie around that which would have levelled the character up and made him "cool".

 

[null]

Winter Soldier movie doesn't work without the action scenes and fight choreography the movie had.

It has the best action scenes of any marvel movie outside of Infinity War and Civil War.

The movie also had a major twist that had a major effect on the MCU world which was far more inter-connected than it is now. That's why it was impactful as it was.

Black Widow had the same tone as The Winter Soldier (outside of Russian Captain America) and even copied the story, nobody cares for it because there was no memorable action scene/choreography.

The russos between Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity also kept going bigger each time.

Winter Soldier - fights/action scenes between supersoldiers,
Civil War - fights/action scenes between superheroes,
Infinity War - fights/action scenes with supernatural characters/galactic beings.

This is why it never got stale. Plus the movies were built around the action set-pieces and the movies were fast paced to get to the next action scene. Though Civil War was slower

If the Russos were directing this, they would have made Sam Wilson a supersoldier and had him fighting Red Hulk and other Hulks throughout the movie and crafted the movie around that which would have levelled the character up and made him "cool".

you imply the key to making a good movie is upping the action-ante.

yet endgame exists.

it's not true.