What gives you the confidence that it's going to be different this year from 2020? If Biden stole the election, why wouldn't he rig it again?
Hmm . . . what did the Dems do when Trump won regarding claiming legitimately, election fraud etc.? Just curious.Conservatives are so seriously un-serious about election fraud claims.
If they had legit complaints about the 2020 election they'd move heaven and earth to shut the country down until it was resolved. For the past four years they've been trying to claim victory in 2020 while treating Biden like any other duly-elected Democratic president they don't like.
If it were Obama instead of Biden there would have been a violent, nationwide revolt.
Hmm . . . what did the Dems do when Trump won regarding claiming legitimately, election fraud etc.? Just curious.
What?! OK, let me phrase it another way. What did you lose a ban bet about but refused to leave? lolThey initially challenged it, but begrudgingly accepted it not long after Hillary conceded and moved on.
They certainly didn't spend 2017-2020 alleging that Trump "stole" the election (moreso that he's corrupt and a criminal, which is true.)
They also didn't lead an insurrection at the nation's capital.
What?! OK, let me phrase it another way. What did you lose a ban bet about but refused to leave? lol
Russiagate wasn't about stealing elections and using foreign influence to do so?Nothing concerning what this thread is about.![]()
Russiagate wasn't about stealing elections and using foreign influence to do so?
Conservatives are so seriously un-serious
I don't want to get into all that but a few posts ago you said, "They initially challenged it, but begrudgingly accepted it not long after Hillary conceded and moved on.Russia led a massive influence campaign in the 2016 election, and has done so in every election thereafter.
This is a fact.
Trump welcomed Russian influence in his campaign.
This is a fact.
The Russians were open to colluding with the Trump campaign.
This is a fact.
Trump and his campaign tried to collude with the Russians, but couldn't come to terms on how to do so.
This is a fact.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller found several instances of attempted collusion that ultimately didn't pan out.
This is a fact.
Because A.) neither "collusion" nor "attempted collusion" are technically chargeable offenses (for some reason), B.) Trump and his admin's behavior was high-key weird but [ostensibly] didn't rise to the standard of obstruction of justice, C.) sitting presidents have presumptive immunity from criminal prosecution, and D.) he's a corrupt lackey, then-Atty. General Bill Barr used his power to quash the Trump-Russia investigation.
All facts.
I don't want to get into all that but a few posts ago you said, "They initially challenged it, but begrudgingly accepted it not long after Hillary conceded and moved on.
They certainly didn't spend 2017-2020 alleging that Trump "stole" the election (moreso that he's corrupt and a criminal, which is true.)" They did indeed spend 2017 -2020 going on and on about how Trump stole the election with Russia's help.
What I'm trying to point out is both sides act like the election was stolen from them when they lose. Hillary did it, Trump did it and whoever loses this time will do so as well.
Or what? You gonna get mad? lolI will not allow you to gloss over my points, or equivocate the Russia investigation with the Jan. 6th insurrection.
They're not equal, and no one should shrug their shoulders and treat them as such.
This! If Trump loses they will claim its fraud regardless. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop that. The election will only be fair to them if Trump wins. They have already planted the seed when asked how they would respond to a Trump lost.To some people it’ll only be election fraud if Trump loses
People don’t understand the electoral college at all![]()