Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

[spliz]

How long did Jay have a relationship with Beanie Sigel?
I'm not questioning they respect Lupes pen game,but Jay has relationships with a lot of nikkas and respects they pen game

Im questioning the outward nature of the cosigns,the cosigns were blaytantly for the public to see and take notice of as they were planned and strategic,not organic. Those guys in that video who cosigned Kendrick probably knew him too,doesn't mean that event wasn't staged now does it?

And I did mention those songs in saying that those artist respect Kendrick for his artistry,and those features came off the tail end of TPAB which wasn't a pop reach at all. Thats different then Lupe making reaches with pop records in order to go pop. Songs like Kick Push,Superstar,Show Goes On and now I'm seein this horrible Twighlight song,those songs were not of or for the culure.

Plus where was the obvious pop reach with that U2 song on his album?

That nikka Jay executive produced Lupe first album and that nikka wasnt even signed to The Roc. THATS how much he respected Lupe’s pen game.

 

[spliz]

The plat plaque is world wide, he barely went Gold with album in the states

What is Gold when Atlantic spent millions on advertisement, videos, studio time, air time on television, they brought in Jay Z, Jay Z ain't cheap nikka

“What is Gold”? With all in house production. All those sales count nikka. Not just in the states. Only on The Coli so u see such nonsense typed out. Smh.

 

[Piff Perkins]

That nikka Jay executive produced Lupe first album and that nikka wasnt even signed to The Roc. THATS how much he respected Lupe’s pen game.

Hov had to pay him back for ghostwriting his shyt

 

[NoHalfWay]

oes it?
Thats different then Lupe making reaches with pop records in order to go pop. Songs like Kick Push,Superstar,Show Goes On and now I'm seein this horrible Twighlight song,those songs were not of or for the culture

What is the pop element in Kick Push?

You nikkas are reaching harder than Piccolo arms

Both Kendrick and Lupe were pop artists doing pop “sellout” shyt. Same goes for Hov and Nas, this argument is dumb.

 

[⚡⚡⚡]

As a huge Lupe fan for many years and also a fan of Kendrick, Lupe just need to go ahead and put out some diss tracks at Kendrick or something since he felt some type of way about him and since that he wasn't able to drop the three albums last year for some odd reason. Because at this point, do whatever it takes to make yourself relevant. I know his last project was in 2016, but that shyt didn't age well at all. Drop some random freestyles like Joyner Lucas be doing, make another Friend of the People mixtape, etc. Plus I want to see some competition between two lyrical elites anyway instead of Kendrick picking shyt on fukking Big Sean or some shyt like that.

 

[OfTheCross]

As a huge Lupe fan for many years and also a fan of Kendrick, Lupe just need to go ahead and put out some diss tracks at Kendrick or something since he felt some type of way about him and since that he wasn't able to drop the three albums last year for some odd reason. Because at this point, do whatever it takes to make yourself relevant. I know his last project was in 2016, but that shyt didn't age well at all. Drop some random freestyles like Joyner Lucas be doing, make another Friend of the People mixtape, etc. Plus I want to see some competition between two lyrical elites anyway instead of Kendrick picking shyt on fukking Big Sean or some shyt like that.

how is your username lightning bolts??

 

[JYoung24]

Lasers was doo doo.

It’s what made me stop listening to him.

It wasnt as bad people make it out to be it still had some joints on there

 

[JYoung24]

The lasers situation wasn't that bizarre when you think about it.
Here is Lupe fiasco a rapper who by the time drake, kendrick and J. Cole and so on were
getting on and doing their thing had already sold hundreds of thousands of records.
His label however saw what The Cool did and what F&L did and they thought
they could do better.

He didn't want their interference in his work and decided he knew what was best.
And because of that with each release his numbers trended downwards as his
new competition continued to sell well and not just "well enough" but exceptionally
well.


TPAB has ONE Funk song inspired song and that's King Kunta.
Now I don't know how often you listen to funk breh but Jazz, Jazz-Funk, Funk, R&B, Neo-Soul
and Jazz/Neo-Soul flavored Hip-Hop is about all I listen to these days and there isn't much
Funk on TPAB, it's more Jazz than anything and really it's more R&B and Hip-Hop than Jazz.

"Jazzy" is an accurate description because it isn't JAZZ but borrows heavily from how Jazz
views harmony (regularly changing keys, lots of extensions, and there's one free jazz/hard bop
song on the album "for free?")

It has more in line with what The Roots,Pete Rock and J. Dilla are doing and less with Herbie
Hancock or The Blackbyrds or Grover Washington and so on are about.
Damn calls back to that a few times, I don't know how well your ears are or how much music
you listen outside of Hip-Hop but I definitely want to make it clear TPAB is about as much a Jazz
album as RUN-DMC's "King of Rock" is a hard rock album.

And the music is different "i" is an isley brother's sample (Soul/R&B not Jazz....) that was largely
unchanged, "HUMBLE" that has practically no samples and was made by a Hip-Hop producer.

There's a difference between the albums no doubt but they share more than they don't.



Outside of twitter and street fighter, I don't think Lupe has ever been in an actual battle that the public
has witnessed.

Thats false lupe albums sell went upwards

 

[JYoung24]

Compared to Lupe very few are top tiered lyricist. But Kendrick is a far superior artist, song writer and performer.

But when it comes down to “bars” Lupe is correct

Ur making lupe seem like cannibus which isnt true

 

[No1]

Matter of fact, I'm at the turn the thread took. With people talking about "Kendrick is a pop star!"

Did you fools forget Lupe had a song on the "Twilight" sound track?

The god damn "Twilight" soundtrack.



If you want to talk about how pop Kendrick is but the fact of the matter is Lupe tried to sell out, and failed. So that angle don't make much sense to use against Kendrick.

Fred.

This isn't true. Lupe had a point where he started doing things that were not hip hop and other shyt to the poinnt where former associates were angered at his output. This is what led to the friend of the people mixtapes and shyt. Lupe always succeeded when he put out corny pop songs, he just never wanted that to be the end all, be all. Superstar, The Show Goes, etc. all worked. Nothing on You would have worked. Airplanes would have worked.

 

[criminology]

The main difference between lupe and Kendrick to me is Kendrick is more of an album maker. A lot of his songs in isolation are whatever, but his albums are thoughtfully put together it makes the sum greater than the parts.

Lupe (except maybe T&Y and his weird michael young history shyt) is more a verse maker. He can string and twist ideas through a verse about as well as anyone.

So yeah, Kendrick’s albums are clearly better than most of lupe’s. But there are very few Kendrick verses in isolation that are touching what lupe does.

It’s like people are comparing football and baseball player stats bc they can’t decide which game to discuss... and it goes on for years and years.

 

[OfTheCross]

 

[JYoung24]

Bro was bragging about his IQ score and insinuating that he's smarter than everyone a few days ago on Twitter. Do his stans NOT understand why dudes don't like him? He's weird and super patronizing and doesn't have good enough music for his fans to be acting like they do. And on the other hand you have a dude who makes great music consistently that's praised by people from all walks of life, Kendrick, and he's humble as fukk.

Nah he does have good enough music tho

 

[Preach Jackson]

 

[Cadillac]

That nikka Justin Hunt is annoying ass fakkit

dont see how anyone can watch his vids. and the nikka hypes up everything . fukkin hypemachine