Living in Israel is pointless if you're going to live in a state of paranoia 24/7

JadeB

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I don't understand the zionist Israelis who choose to continue to live in Israel or zionist Jews who plan or dream of going to Israel. Everything about that place seems miserable from their perspective. All of your neighbors hate you, the native people are rightfully grieved and want to liberate themselves by any means necessary, there's the threat of bombings, shootings, missile attacks everyday. Damn near every Israeli has a bunker to hide in. The fear that one day an Arab/Muslim country might stop giving a fukk and invade Israel. The long history of invasion. The fact that there's compulsory military conscription. A whole lot of people in the West don't fukk with you.

This all feels similar to life for whites in the antebellum South, pre-Revolution Haiti, colonial Algeria or even apartheid South Africa. The fear of the oppressed and their allies rising up and slaughtering you is so ingrained that it affects every aspect of your life. You live in paranoia 24/7. That's not a life to live. I feel like the sunk cost fallacy applies so much to Israel. The country invested so much into protecting a sinking ship that they don't want to let go even it's for their benefit.

Any thoughts?
 

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More Jews live in New York and London than Israel. They are safer there than literally surrounded by enemies THEY created.

And you're right, it's a sunk cost. American military contracts depend on weapons testing in places like Israel. For God's sake google uses AI to find so-called targets there and calculates an acceptable "collateral death".

Israel can't exist as it is now. Its a genocidal ethnostate that benefits no one but killers
 

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Thats the point my guy. Zionism runs on paranoia, a perpetual victim complex, and xenophobia.

There you have it. Also all these settler colonies (yes including the USA) run on the whole "God sent us" religious extremism so they see all this as some sort of divine mission bs. "Manifest Destiny" and "God's Chosen People" is the same sort of supremacism.
 

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All of their neighbours do no hate them.

The majority of Lebanon, Jordan do not hate them, and Saudi Arabia is their man

And I'm sure there's a bigger risk of dying from a car accident, or getting shot randomly in the US than one of Israels enemies killing their citizens.
 
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All of their neighbours do no hate them.

The majority of Lebanon, Jordan do not hate them, and Saudi Arabia is their best friend after the US
Ain't no fukkin way you're serious
:russ: None of those Arab countries wants Israel there, especially now that Israel is committing genocide against Muslims
 

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countries are usually surrounded by neighbors who hate them
Canada isn't everyone's neighbor
 

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Ain't no fukkin way you're serious
:russ: None of those Arab countries wants Israel there, especially now that Israel is committing genocide against Muslims
I am serious, I do not get my news from random Twitter posters.
Saudi Arabia and Israel are ganged up against Iran and their little helpers in Huthi rebels, Hezbollah, and Hamas.

This is the deeper meaning of Sunni vs Shia muslims.
Add that Israel is approximately 20 % Arabs. That's an arab population around the same size of Gaza. The first strike against Hezbollah in Lebanon in this war was a response to Hezbollah bombing an arab village in Israel. Furthermore, you might not believe it, but a lot of arabs hate terrorist groups unlike western clowns on the internets living vicariously through other people's suffering.
All countries are not the same, all muslims are not the same, but of course the wider majority of everyone wants all wars to stop :dahell:
 
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