Lion roar strength doesn't reflect sexual heirarchy

[zerozero]

I'm brushing up on looking down, I'm working on my roar​

Can You Judge a Lion By His Roar? Sadly, No. - Alexis C. Madrigal - The Atlantic

http://www.cbs.umn.edu/lionresearch...lion_roars_reflect_sex_and_male_condition.pdf

This paper provides a description of the acoustic features of roars recorded from 18 male and 6 female lions (Panthera leo) living in the Serengeti National park, Tanzania. After analyzing whether these roars differ between the sexes, tests whether male roars may function as indicators of their fighting ability or condition were conducted. Therefore, call characteristics were tested for relation to anatomical features as size, mane color, or mane length. Call characteristics included acoustic parameters that previously had been implied as indicators of size and fighting ability, e.g., call length, fundamental frequency, and peak frequency. The analysis revealed differences in relation to sex, which were entirely explained by variation in body size. No evidence that acoustic variables were related to male condition was found, indicating that sexual selection might only be a weak force modulating the lion's roar. Instead, lion roars may have mainly been selected to effectively advertise territorial boundaries.

 

[Serious]

Not surprised, real G's move in silence

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

That's a clown suit. That's a costume, with a big sign on it that says "Arrest me". You understand? You're too loud, you're making too much noise. Listen to me, the loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.

 

[zerozero]

This is why pop culture understandings of evolutionary biology are such bullsh1t... I remember being in an argument in TLR a couple months ago about whether we can identify human 'alpha males' and I pointed out that you shouldn't appropriate biological language from certain herd animals and confuse human societies with that language..

this article shows that we barely even understand sexual selection among animals that live among us, never mind ancient fossilized humans and dinosaurs whose social organizations we want to conjecture about and analogize to current human culture