Libertarian Questions: Explain "Free Market", "Social Security Plan"

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So right now I am getting very into politics and am actually getting very active in my community.

I have spent a great deal of time looking for a couple of questions to be answered since I find a majority of my peer group (white privileged males) call themselves Libertarian, but then will get very angry when I ask these questions. I just want to understand the stance, not here to argue.

1) So to my understanding Libertarians want a free market to exist with no gov interference. The problem is I can only think of one instance in which this existed in America, that was the mob in the prohibition era. That is the only time I can think of when such a market place existed in pragmatic approach how would such a system exist if gov was not in place to run the structure? Would we assume that people would violent crime increase due to self regulation of your property? My big question is what would be a good example of a free market? How could a system be realistically set up in the real world present day and what would be steps in order to set up a Libertarian vision of the U.S.A. for the next 20 years of the economy? Also I have heard that people view the 1950s as a prime era of Libertarian free market place, if so how did sexism and racism (both of which still exist , but on a more repressed manner - which may be worse since we don't deal with it on a social level , but feel as though "we" [white people] have moved passed it) impact the free market?

2) As for social security if it is cut what would be the plan to protect the middle class? The social institution was put in place by FDR during the time of the great depression to make sure man and women would not work a whole lifetime and have nothing, why at the forefront of another economic crisis would we consider cutting this function other money? In 2004, W wanted to privatize social security before the markets crashed if we privatized then over 50 % of Americans would of lost everything, what would be the safety net be or would it be viewed as you are not smart enough to keep your money? Private social security looks a lot like how the elite gamble with money in stocks yet the average person does not have enough money to gamble with and furthermore it seems from my perspective that Social Security is viewed as welfare as though it is shameful to even accept such a check if you are elite. For the non elite what are you views on this? Also how do you feel about the retirement age raising as well which means in essence privatizing of social security?
 

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There aren't any completely free markets in the world, a mixed economy is best.

Social Security ended last year with a 2.7 trillion dollar surplus but will start to pay out more than it takes in, in 2021.. So we're going to have to get that money from somewhere. And guess where the government gets its money? Taxes.

and don't try to talk to privileged people about politics, they're fukking morons
 

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Also a problem is our birth rates. What is fukking up SS is there are a TON of old people in this country. The average age of a white person is like almost 40 years old. We aren't having enough new workers to start putting into the SS what we're losing from all the baby boomers. We could potentially setup mexican farms where we can create a lot of mexican workers (since their women seem to be quite fertile) to start contributing to our SS system
 
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There aren't any completely free markets in the world, a mixed economy is best.

Social Security ended last year with a 2.7 trillion dollar surplus but will start to pay out more than it takes in, in 2021.. So we're going to have to get that money from somewhere. And guess where the government gets its money? Taxes.

and don't try to talk to privileged people about politics, they're fukking morons

Sadly it's a white world, so every white person is privileged. I understand the increase in taxes my question is simply, if you get rid of Social Security how does our generation not get screwed out of retirement and our kids even get jobs since the work force will have to work for far too long?
 

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Sadly it's a white world, so every white person is privileged. I understand the increase in taxes my question is simply, if you get rid of Social Security how does our generation not get screwed out of retirement and our kids even get jobs since the work force will have to work for far too long?
We would be fukked if that indeed happened. Especially because companies are more and more taking away retirement benefits and other benefits they normally would have. We need to restructure our tax code anyway, I think it's possible to restructure it in such a way that we could make social security maintainable, but we would have to do so in a way that doesn't overburden those who don't make much money. I don't think the rich folks in this country are paying their fair share imo.
 
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We would be fukked if that indeed happened. Especially because companies are more and more taking away retirement benefits and other benefits they normally would have. We need to restructure our tax code anyway, I think it's possible to restructure it in such a way that we could make social security maintainable, but we would have to do so in a way that doesn't overburden those who don't make much money. I don't think the rich folks in this country are paying their fair share imo.

I agree 100%. Maybe it is my misconception , but don't libertarians believe in cutting back taxes on the rich to create jobs? If you cut social security and cut the taxes on the rich, I don't understand the system
 

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Also a problem is our birth rates. What is fukking up SS is there are a TON of old people in this country. The average age of a white person is like almost 40 years old. We aren't having enough new workers to start putting into the SS what we're losing from all the baby boomers. We could potentially setup mexican farms where we can create a lot of mexican workers (since their women seem to be quite fertile) to start contributing to our SS system

This sounds suspiciously like a plantation. :khallid:
 
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