Lettuce discuss Walter White vs Franklin Saint

[dora_da_destroyer]

Been rewatching BB and damn if these ain’t the same dudes


WW - OG goal was to not leave family in debt, uncovered motives he needed validation, to be seen as someone, to be the man


Saint - OG goal was to change the outcome of his family, uncovered motives needed validation, to be seen as the man, freedom


Weaknesses - pride and too in love with the money


Both became overly ruthless, destroying their lives and the lives of those around them. Frank killing Dre and then playing in Mel’s face was like Walt letting Jane die and poisoning Brock and playing in Jesse’s face about it


Getting uncle Rome clapped was the same as getting Hank clapped


Both lost their women and kids


Both was cosplaying above their level and caught L’s. Frank got his $75M snatched back, Walt led sons of anarchy right to his money and gave it up stupidly for a deal that had no chance of happening - lost $80M but they gave him $10M back


Both easily had enough assets to walk away and live a less stellar version of their lives but they would’ve been well off - both stupidly let hubris and greed take them a step too far


It’s a reach to say they both go what they wanted - sure Franklin was free, but dude ain’t want to be free like that, and Walt finessed some legit money for his family…but they hate him


Both have old partners left destitute and fukked while on the run - Jesse and Louie


Anyway, who caught the bigger L’s? Who was the worst? Who would win in battle for turf at their peak?

 

[jwinfield]

I'd say Frank caught bigger Ls.

Dude is a wino living in the community he destroyed. No one knows about the nice ass cribs, cars, him flying planes. People just know him as the drunk dude always bothering people. Has never seen his kid and his mom wants nothing to do with him.

Walt took Ls but died getting the credit he desperately sought. Walt jumped into a meth market that was already there while Saint created a market that would destroy inner cities across American and fukked a generation of black families up.

 

[jwinfield]

Walt never had the highs that Franklin did.

He was a kingpin, but what did he do with his money? Bought a car wash, he bought that car in season 2 I think, other than that, they stayed at the same house, Skylar still worked a job, paid for hospital bills.

Frank was on some GTA shyt, started a real estate company, buying planes, all types of cars, clothes...

 

[FaTaL]

Walt never had the highs that Franklin did.

He was a kingpin, but what did he do with his money? Bought a car wash, he bought that car in season 2 I think, other than that, they stayed at the same house, Skylar still worked a job, paid for hospital bills.

Frank was on some GTA shyt, started a real estate company, buying planes, all types of cars, clothes...

she ran the car wash and washed the money