Let's Talk About Black/Brown Characters And The Multiverse For A Minute Here....

[Prince.Skeletor]

So me and my boy we were smoking a blunt
And we started thinking.....
So I was saying that if you have a character like let's say Batman and make him a black guy, or a brown guy, or asian for diversity, isn't that stupid?
I mean how is that a win for the black/brown/asian guy to have a superhero that was previously white and change his ethnicity.
Wouldn't creating a brand new character be way better? That way he was always black/brown/asian????
This also won't create no stupid drama from the go woke go broke crowd.

But nooooooooooo, instead let's create a multiverse.

Isn't that lazy writing? That they are so unwilling to create a new character that they have to create a multiverse to recycle old characters?
It's almost like reboots of old movies, because it's going to be the same villains anyhow.

Creating new characters gives the open creativity to create new super heroes, new super powers and new supervillains with new evil superpowers.

WHYYYYY PASS ON THAT???????????????

Isnt' that madness??

 

[Json]

So me and my boy we were smoking a blunt
And we started thinking.....
So I was saying that if you have a character like let's say Batman and make him a black guy, or a brown guy, or asian for diversity, isn't that stupid?
I mean how is that a win for the black/brown/asian guy to have a superhero that was previously white and change his ethnicity.
Wouldn't creating a brand new character be way better? That way he was always black/brown/asian????
This also won't create no stupid drama from the go woke go broke crowd.

But nooooooooooo, instead let's create a multiverse.

Isn't that lazy writing? That they are so unwilling to create a new character that they have to create a multiverse to recycle old characters?
It's almost like reboots of old movies, because it's going to be the same villains anyhow.

Creating new characters gives the open creativity to create new super heroes, new super powers and new supervillains with new evil superpowers.

WHYYYYY PASS ON THAT???????????????

Isnt' that madness??

We’ve seen Spider-Man in three high school iterations across twenty years isn’t recycling?

It’s all recycling.

Let’s not forget even when they create a new minority character it’s usually tied to a legacy white hero so you many never get to see that story adapted if fans don’t get the white hero stories they like adapted.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Yes, in a perfect world creating new characters would be the way to go but every time that happens it’s always met with “Who tf is this” or “we don’t need any more d-list characters”. Few people are willing to give anything a chance so the studios just say ““

 

[Jazzy B.]

It's pointless because they'll always RESET back to a cac in the end.

 

[Luke Cage]

They don't even need to create new characters. Comicbooks have always had diversity. Give some shine to the black characters if you want more black character. making all these people black, but letting someone like john stewart or blue marvel collect dust.
Takes for granted the fact that even though we want more black characters we still like some non black characters too. Don't have to make us choose between one or another. let us have both.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Yes, in a perfect world creating new characters would be the way to go but every time that happens it’s always met with “Who tf is this” or “we don’t need any more d-list characters”. Few people are willing to give anything a chance so the studios just say ““

This

They messed up by not giving characters like Black Panther or Luke Cage the same marketing that Spider-Man and the Hulk got when they were all created in the 60s. it's hard to catch up now.

And if we're being honest they still don't want to push those characters

It's a lot easier to attach an alternative character to an already popular brand like Spider-Man.

 

[Trips]

There's arguments for all the various stances on the issues. It's just about how you treat them. I mean you have some characters that even if the original thoughts for them may have been they should have been a different race, they most likely were created as a white character. And then as other characters of color are actually introduced they just never got the same levels of marketing as some of the others. So when the brand is Spider-Man, or Superman, or Batman. You have this long legacy of one look but the brand is still the brand and it becomes easier to try creating alternates under that brand to see if it can get legs.

Look at Nick Fury for most if not all of us we remember the white version of Nick Fury, and i'm sure there are people that were up in arms that Samuel L Jackson was being cast to be the new version of Fury. But, now with the rise of the MCU and all that stuff I don't think any of my nephews know there is a white version.

I personally don't get hung up where characters come from, or if they get race swapped. Because all this shyt is ficitional lands. It's why I laugh at the people that got mad that certain people in GoT or Rings of Power, or Dune got refreshed to different POC's in modern tellings. I mean you read a name like Corlys Velaryon and you were looking at the Defensive Roster for an SEC school. You'd probably raise your eyebrow if you saw a White Kid. So why not apply that logic when reading fantasy material.

Now if you are setting up your world around say Switzerland or Japan. I would naturally expect the people to be based on what we know is the overriding ethnic makeup of those real areas. But, also because I'm reading a work of fiction I would be able to open my mind enough to know it may not look exactly like we know those places to be. So if they put a white tribe in Wakanda knowing it is set in historical African continent. Yeah I'd raise my eyebrow, but I would still be able to give the story a shot.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Why black & brown?

Why not just…black?

 

[Art Barr]

So me and my boy we were smoking a blunt
And we started thinking.....
So I was saying that if you have a character like let's say Batman and make him a black guy, or a brown guy, or asian for diversity, isn't that stupid?
I mean how is that a win for the black/brown/asian guy to have a superhero that was previously white and change his ethnicity.
Wouldn't creating a brand new character be way better? That way he was always black/brown/asian????
This also won't create no stupid drama from the go woke go broke crowd.

But nooooooooooo, instead let's create a multiverse.

Isn't that lazy writing? That they are so unwilling to create a new character that they have to create a multiverse to recycle old characters?
It's almost like reboots of old movies, because it's going to be the same villains anyhow.

Creating new characters gives the open creativity to create new super heroes, new super powers and new supervillains with new evil superpowers.

WHYYYYY PASS ON THAT???????????????

Isnt' that madness??

Race swapping is wack and if done for black people is wrong. As it takes away the moral stance of the character. Depowering the character. Miles morales is the only exception and that is in film form. In print...Mile's was never over till casuals from the film gained a discovery by supporting the movie.
Not to mention it is could be deemed a comic code violation too.
Ehich most new comic book artist are not actually trained in comics. Sohh knowing comic code or adherence to the comic code is lost.
Including why comics suck right now and till the future.

Art Barr

 

[Kenny West]

This is a general failing of western comics. nikkas have been re-using the same characters, plot points and stories for decades. Every 3-5 years we have some new iteration of Spider-Man's origin story. How do people stay excited for this shyt??

As a kid I never understood the appeal. Manga had far superior storytelling, consistent universes and stories with a clear beginning, middle and end. Meanwhile over here "Wanna see another slightly remixed Peter Parker get bit by a radioactive spider? "