Let's take a look back at all the sneak dissing Biggie did aimed at Pac on LAD

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RIP to both Big and Pac first off.

I remember how Bad Boy Records use to always say there was no Pac disses at all on Life After Death -- but let's be real folks, half of that double cd was aimed at Pac, if not more than half..

Drop some lines were Biggie is going at Pac and explain the meaning. Here is one:



Your jewelry, you can keep it, that'll be our little secret - Biggie (What's beef)

Biggie is talking about the robbery in New York with Pac....And he basically saying his peeps/associates were behind it by letting Pac keep the rolex that was bought by either Jimmy Henchman or Haitian Jack as a present to Tupac...the reason they didn't take the jewelry was b/c at the time, they wanted Pac to know who sent this robbery and why.
 

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There's really only a few songs on that album where he doesn't directly/indirectly reference the beef with Pac. If you consider that RTD was indeed (despite all the people denying this) heavily influenced by Pac's style, Biggie's entire solo discography is concerned with Pac in one way or another. Biggie's legacy depends on Pac's like crazy.

He still deserves his legend status though 'cause he was indeed one of the illest to ever do it.
 

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There's really only a few songs on that album where he doesn't directly/indirectly reference the beef with Pac. If you consider that RTD was indeed (despite all the people denying this) heavily influenced by Pac's style, Biggie's entire solo discography is concerned with Pac in one way or another. Biggie's legacy depends on Pac's like crazy.

He still deserves his legend status though 'cause he was indeed one of the illest to ever do it.
Youre mad, how did pac influence Biggie?? I keep hearing pac stans say this but it isnt true.

pac is the one that came looking for Biggie, hes the one who was pushing for them to be friends, hes the one that was all over an unsigned rappers dikk that didnt know that this guy wanted from him, hes the one that was trying to get Big and his crew roles in Above the Rim..Biggie's music from his demos to Party and Bullshyt to RTD was pretty much the same hardcore Ny talk. Pac didnt influence, flow, lyrics or shyt. Big by all accounts didnt seem bothered or remotely interested in Pac, from the time they met to when Pac was mad Big had denied him the attention he wanted.
Everybody at the time was on Bigs dikk, including Pac. Infact Pac is the first true Stan.
I dont think Big cared for Pac cause he just didnt care for him as a rapper. Big was aware of his own strengths as an MC, and saw Pac as a successful but weaker Mc than himself. If youre Biggie with all that talent, you might respect the likes of Jay, Nas and Camron. He never respected Pacs skills and I think this is what tipped Pacs mental. Big never cared for dude and people blow up their friendship when it was non existant.
 

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Youre mad, how did pac influence Biggie?? I keep hearing pac stans say this but it isnt true.

pac is the one that came looking for Biggie, hes the one who was pushing for them to be friends, hes the one that was all over an unsigned rappers dikk that didnt know that this guy wanted from him, hes the one that was trying to get Big and his crew roles in Above the Rim..Biggie's music from his demos to Party and Bullshyt to RTD was pretty much the same hardcore Ny talk. Pac didnt influence, flow, lyrics or shyt. Big by all accounts didnt seem bothered or remotely interested in Pac, from the time they met to when Pac was mad Big had denied him the attention he wanted.
Everybody at the time was on Bigs dikk, including Pac. Infact Pac is the first true Stan.
I dont think Big cared for Pac cause he just didnt care for him as a rapper. Big was aware of his own strengths as an MC, and saw Pac as a successful but weaker Mc than himself. If youre Biggie with all that talent, you might respect the likes of Jay, Nas and Camron. He never respected Pacs skills and I think this is what tipped Pacs mental. Big never cared for dude and people blow up their friendship when it was non existant.

I think a lot of this is true & it's not really accurate for people to say Pac influenced Biggie's style. Pac gave him advice on the business side of things but it's clear BIG took that advice & ran with it his own way. They were 2 different emcees. If you wanted to compare BIG's style he was a combo of these 3 ATG's:

1- Big Daddy Kane
2- Slick Rick
3- Kool G Rap

BIG was heavily influenced by those 3 & it's pretty obvious.
 

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Same night same fight but one of us ain't playing right. That line still pisses me off lol! Yea im a PAC Stan


smh, I see late 90's East coast rap goes over a lot of people's heads. That line has nothing to do with Pac....

Jay is saying that he's in the 1500 seats while you're at home watching the TV saying the fight's on. He's in the front row AT the fight and you're at home watching it on TV...you ain't playing right. it's just a slick "I'm balling and you not" line from Jigga. has nothing to do with Pac.
 

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smh, I see late 90's East coast rap goes over a lot of people's heads. That line has nothing to do with Pac....

Jay is saying that he's in the 1500 seats while you're at home watching the TV saying the fight's on. He's in the front row AT the fight and you're at home watching it on TV...you ain't playing right. it's just a slick "I'm balling and you not" line from Jigga. has nothing to do with Pac.

Nah...its definitely a double meaning there.

LAD came out in 97...likely the song was recorded in 96.

To say...."same night, same fight"...referencing a Tyson fight right about Pac got murdered after a Tyson fight is being slick.
 

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Nah...its definitely a double meaning there.

LAD came out in 97...likely the song was recorded in 96.

To say...."same night, same fight"...referencing a Tyson fight right about Pac got murdered after a Tyson fight is being slick.

my dude, Pac was probably alive when they recorded the song, LAD was recorded from 95-97. He cleary says, "I'm in the 1500 dollar seats, watching Ty-son". then paints the picture of you, the listener, being at home at your little fight party screaming to everyone in the house, "the fight's on!". It's straight and to the point, there is no double meaning at all. Referencing a Tyson fight has nothing to do with Pac. If he referenced someone getting killed, then yeah, I would say maybe that is subliminal, but all he is saying is he's balling at the fight in the front row and you're broke at home. the name of the song is I Love The Dough for crying out loud, the theme of the song is ballin and getting money which is what that line sums up to in the context of the song.
 

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my dude, Pac was probably alive when they recorded the song, LAD was recorded from 95-97. He cleary says, "I'm in the 1500 dollar seats, watching Ty-son". then paints the picture of you, the listener, being at home at your little fight party screaming to everyone in the house, "the fight's on!". It's straight and to the point, there is no double meaning at all. Referencing a Tyson fight has nothing to do with Pac. If he referenced someone getting killed, then yeah, I would say maybe that is subliminal, but all he is saying is he's balling at the fight in the front row and you're broke at home. the name of the song is I Love The Dough for crying out loud, the theme of the song is ballin and getting money which is what that line sums up to in the context of the song.

Nah.

Jay's the king of doublespeak. I still find new things in his lyrics from albums I've heard a million times.

Its too close for my liking. Right after dude they had beef with got killed, he's bragging about the Tyson fight.

Yea, ok.
 

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Youre mad, how did pac influence Biggie?? I keep hearing pac stans say this but it isnt true.

pac is the one that came looking for Biggie, hes the one who was pushing for them to be friends, hes the one that was all over an unsigned rappers dikk that didnt know that this guy wanted from him, hes the one that was trying to get Big and his crew roles in Above the Rim..Biggie's music from his demos to Party and Bullshyt to RTD was pretty much the same hardcore Ny talk. Pac didnt influence, flow, lyrics or shyt. Big by all accounts didnt seem bothered or remotely interested in Pac, from the time they met to when Pac was mad Big had denied him the attention he wanted.
Everybody at the time was on Bigs dikk, including Pac. Infact Pac is the first true Stan.
I dont think Big cared for Pac cause he just didnt care for him as a rapper. Big was aware of his own strengths as an MC, and saw Pac as a successful but weaker Mc than himself. If youre Biggie with all that talent, you might respect the likes of Jay, Nas and Camron. He never respected Pacs skills and I think this is what tipped Pacs mental. Big never cared for dude and people blow up their friendship when it was non existant.

Big was a huge Pac fan. Rated him 10 out of 10 as an MC.
 

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my dude, Pac was probably alive when they recorded the song, LAD was recorded from 95-97. He cleary says, "I'm in the 1500 dollar seats, watching Ty-son". then paints the picture of you, the listener, being at home at your little fight party screaming to everyone in the house, "the fight's on!". It's straight and to the point, there is no double meaning at all. Referencing a Tyson fight has nothing to do with Pac. If he referenced someone getting killed, then yeah, I would say maybe that is subliminal, but all he is saying is he's balling at the fight in the front row and you're broke at home. the name of the song is I Love The Dough for crying out loud, the theme of the song is ballin and getting money which is what that line sums up to in the context of the song.

This.

You're reaching if you think this is aimed at Pac.
 
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