Let’s Be Real...Once R.Kelly Hit The Scene His Only Real Competition Over The Years Was...

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Bobby was on his way out
D’Angelo wasn’t consistent enough
Maxwell wasn’t shooting for the same audience
Joe wasn’t big enough
Musiq wasn’t in his stratosphere
Ginuwine wasn’t in his weight class
Usher was moving units but he wasn’t nearly the artist Robert was

Mary & Robert are the only ones since the 90s with legitimate classics...no conjured up hype just memorable material
 

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Mary wasn't his competition. Maybe for a short time but Kells was always bigger than her and he outlasted her. Mary had one hell of a career though, particularly based on her actual natural talent level.
 

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I can agree with this. Kellz and mary both redefined and changed the entire vibe of r&b. Especially kellz.
 

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I mean, his actual run was longer than hers. R. Kelly was pretty much on top for a decade and a half, consistently, actually contributing to music the whole time. Mary is a legend and even relevant to this day through acting but I dont think their runs came be compared. Judging by current circumstances though I may have misused the word "outlasted" though lol.
 

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I mean, his actual run was longer than hers. R. Kelly was pretty much on top for a decade and a half, consistently, actually contributing to music the whole time. Mary is a legend and even relevant to this day through acting but I dont think their runs came be compared. Judging by current circumstances though I may have misused the word "outlasted" though lol.
I agree with you. the only reason shes more relevant now is because kellz is in jail. He was still touring as recently as 2018
 

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I listen to way more Mary than Kels :yeshrug: Sh*t I play Lauryn’s one album more than Kels too. I fukk with Kels music though that nasty sh*t aside.
 

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Mary was nowhere near R Kelly in terms of competition. Dude wrote, sang, arranged and produced and then gave legit hits to other artists on Michael Jackson’s level. shyt, he even blessed Mary with some piff.

Mary was a raw muse that Puff basically made in to a female solo Jodeci and then did the same shyt with Total. Mary came around at the right time in a post-New Jack era and instead of taking a Whitney or Toni Braxton lane, she was given Hip Hop flavored tracks to sing over along with seeming less polished like a typical soul/R&B singer. She sold that image well because it didn’t seem manufactured.

Behind the scenes you had Puff’s whole team cooking up songs and leaning heavily on samples to drive it home (the My Life album especially)

R Kelly was already on his way to being a golden boy in the game by 1993 and by the late 90s dude had a crazy discography as a singer and producer.

And this is if we are strictly talking about talent and abilities. He has her beat vocally, as a producer/writer/arranger (she cant do any of that) and he could oversee someone else’s project and that shyt will actually turn out well (Aaliyah’s first album, Isley’s 90’s comeback album)
 
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I mean, his actual run was longer than hers. R. Kelly was pretty much on top for a decade and a half, consistently, actually contributing to music the whole time. Mary is a legend and even relevant to this day through acting but I dont think their runs came be compared. Judging by current circumstances though I may have misused the word "outlasted" though lol.

Mary had big singles & more than one classic album. Even if you didn't find her to be his competition per se, she was definitely closer to being that compared to the others I listed
 
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