Let's be real after empire, Vader and Palp would've never failed and been on some Frieza shyt

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  • Luke = sonned out and LITERALLY can't clap back at pops
  • Vader = Nas in december 01
  • Han Solo = stuck on stupid
  • Leia = On the hoe stroll and bottom bytch to a real pimp the Hutt
  • Boba Fett = fukkin up commas
  • R2D2 and C3PO = Dumpster and Mannequin status
  • Lando = blowing a bag today off that Empire stimulus package
  • Palpatine = restoring them building since Luke came thru and crushed em

Aint no fukkin way the jedi could or should've come back. The empire would've just moved on and continued growing...Luke = Bardock...Vader = Frieza
 

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I understand Vader having mixed feelings about his son but the emperor was on that gay shyt. replace ya pops blown out butthole and be my new bottom bytch shyt. If that was me As soon as the doors opened up 50 storm nikkas would have the green light to spray shyt like 1992 even hit vader's cripple ass
 

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Dat Prophecy :mjpls:

But naw, Jedi was trash. The only redeemable quality was the space battle and the Falcon escaping the explosion in time.
 

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Jedi was Phantom Menace status, easily one of the worst episodes.

With that said, the only reason they failed is because Palpatine was :shaq: for Luke. Remember it wasn't just about having an apprentice, he's looking to become immortal and Anakin was too fukked up to help him.

If Anakin dies he will somehow find out about Leia too. He needed Luke alone to turn him properly, and he needed Vader there to force his hand (no pun intended) so that part made sense. He did the same with Dooku. The Jabba/second Death Star shyt was all dumb/lazy as hell (cool action scenes though).

Plus Stormtroopers/guards would just get in the way. As soon as Qui-Gon saw Maul he told those shooters "beat it" because Maul/true Sith/Jedi don't fukk around. Remember when Yoda walks into the Emperor's office:

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The fact is the emperor needed to replace Vader because Vader got on that Starscream shyt. Telling Luke we should kill the emperor and rule as father and son. The 2 of them put their fight with the rebels on cruise control because they were too busy trying to fukk over each other.:beli::snoop:
 
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The fact is the emperor needed to replace Vader because Vader got on that Starscream shyt. Telling Luke we should kill the emperor and rule as father and son. The 2 of them put their fight with the rebels on cruise control because they were too busy trying to fukk over each other.:beli::snoop:

i don't think the emperor knew that vader wanted to go against him. i mean i know the EU has expanded on this and they have indicated the opposite but going by ROTJ there really is no indication that the emperor saw vader coming at all.

at the end of the day i just think the emperor wanted luke as an ally and he knew the only way that was gonna happen was if he took his anger out on his father and killed him.

at the same time though i believe there is a bit of a plot hole. i can understand the emperor playing on luke's hatred for his father but i never for once second bought that luke was capable of betraying the rebellion and joining the emperor.
 
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